1999-12-06_Minutes
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At a meeting of the Common Council, held at the City Hall in the City of
Saint John, on Monday, the sixth day of December, AD., 1999, at 7:00 o'clock p.m.
present
Shirley McAlary, Mayor
Deputy Mayor Chase and Councillors Ball, Chase, Court,
Desmond, Fitzpatrick, Titus, Trites, Vincent and White
- and -
Messrs. 1. Totten, City Manager; J. Nugent, City Solicitor; A
Beckett, Commissioner of Finance and Commissioner of
Corporate Services; J. C. MacKinnon, Commissioner of
Environment and Development Services; P. Groody,
Commissioner of Municipal Operations; W. Butler, Commissioner
of Community Services; S. Galbraith, Director of Works; J. Baird,
Manager of Community Planning; W. Edwards, Building
Inspector; S. Lodhi, Manager of Real Estate and Facility
Management; D. Logan, Purchasing Agent; G. Tait, Fire Chief; C.
Cogswell, Chief of Police; Mrs. M. Munford, Common Clerk; and
Ms. C. Mosher, Assistant Common Clerk.
1. MeetinQ Called To Order - Prayer
Mayor McAlary called the meeting to order, and Deacon Bob Freill of the
Catholic Diocese of Saint John, offered the opening prayer.
2. Approval of Minutes
On motion of Councillor White
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that minutes of the meeting of
Common Council, held on November 22, 1999, be approved.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
The Mayor called for a motion to add to the agenda of this meeting, as
items 9A, 9B and 21A, respectively, Councillor Chase's letter on the waste diversion
target, which was on the Committee of the Whole agenda of this date under item 31; a
letter from the Saint John Board of Trade in support of composting as an integral
component of the Fundy Region Solid Waste Commission's plans for waste diversion
(copies of which were distributed to Council members in Committee of the Whole earlier
this date); and the City Manager's recommendation on property purchase for the Mark
Drive by-pass road project, which was considered in Committee of the Whole earlier this
date under item 37.
On motion of Deputy Mayor Chase
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that the above-mentioned items
be added to the agenda of this meeting.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
3(a) Amendment To Section 39 Conditions
Of Re-ZoninQ Of 241 MillidQe Avenue
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
completed with regard to a proposed amendment to the Section 39 conditions imposed
on the February 1,1971 re-zoning, to "B-1" Local Business classification, of the property
at 241 Millidge Avenue (NBGIC Numbers 46987 and 48033), situated at the corner of
Millidge Avenue and Spar Cove Road, to permit the establishment and operation of a
restaurant, having a dining room liquor license, and to amend a number of site
development conditions, including a request for the elimination of the requirement for a
fence along the east side of the property line, barrier devices adjacent to Millidge
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Avenue and concrete curbing adjacent to the landscaped area along Millidge Avenue,
with the driveway off Millidge Avenue to remain, and 3{c) the submitted letter and
petition in opposition to the proposal, as well as 3{d) the submitted letters in support of
the proposal were received.
3{b)
Consideration was also given to a report from the Planning Advisory
Committee submitting a copy of Planning staff's report, letters in favour and letters, one
with a petition, against the proposal, considered by the Committee at its November 23,
1999 meeting at which the applicants, John and Shauna Scott, appeared to speak in
favour of the proposed Section 39 amendment and indicated their agreement with the
changes to the site development conditions as recommended by Planning staff, although
they would prefer that the restaurant be allowed to have a dining room liquor license,
and they also indicated their willingness to close the restaurant at 11 :00 p.m. nightly and
that, even without video lottery terminals (VL Ts), they would still like to have a dining
room liquor license; and Peter Graham and Dorothy White spoke against the application,
their main concern being with respect to the ability to serve alcohol with a meal and the
operation of VL Ts; advising that the Committee, having concerns with the use of VL Ts at
this location, adopted a revised recommendation which would permit a licensed dining
room only if they voluntarily agreed to forego VL Ts; and recommending that Common
Council amend the Section 39 conditions imposed on the February 1, 1971 re-zoning to
"B-1" Local Business classification of the property situated at 241 Millidge Avenue
(NBGIC Numbers 46987 and 48033), as amended on February 15, 1972 and December
7, 1992, by replacing the conditions with the following: (1) the use of the site be limited to
residential units, a convenience/grocery store and a pizza franchise restaurant with a
maximum of 25 seats; (2) if the owner volunteers to enter into a Section 101 agreement
requiring that the restaurant is to be closed by 11 :00 p.m. nightly and that no video
lottery terminals be located on the property, the restaurant could be licensed as a dining
room under the Liquor Control Act upon execution and registration of the agreement; (3)
the site be developed in accordance with a detailed site plan to be submitted to the
Development Officer for approval prior to the issuance of any building permit, illustrating
the following: (a) a solid fence with a height of not less than 1.2 metres (4 feet), located
along the common property line between the subject property and the property identified
as civic number 121 Spar Cove Road; (b) a mature tree having a minimum height of 1.5
metres (5 feet) to be planted in the landscaped area, located between the building and
Millidge Avenue; (c) one driveway to be located at the most eastern portion of the site
with access to Millidge Avenue, to be solely used for residential use; (d) a physical
barrier be provided to protect the existing landscaped area along Millidge Avenue; and
(e) a raised planter(s) be provided in the non-landscaped area, adjacent to Millidge
Avenue; and (4) the site development conditions listed in (3) above be completed no
later than June 30, 2000.
Marion Graham of 234 Millidge Avenue, appearing in opposition to the
proposed amendment, read the letter under agenda item 3(c), which included a petition
objecting to the granting of a dining room liquor license to the owner-operator at 241
Millidge Avenue.
John Scott, representing Bell Camp Holdings Inc., speaking in favour of
his proposal for the subject property, clarified that the concrete curb he wished to
remove was between the parking lot area and the landscaped area now grassed in at
the front of the building, as he did not think concrete curbing was needed as there was
already a chain link fence in place, although if the City wished to have a concrete
curbing put there he would do that; and, rather than put something concrete between the
sidewalk and Millidge Avenue, he would like to put a barrier of a planter sort to dress it
up and create a nicer and better atmosphere, not one of concrete and asphalt, in
entering the restaurant. Mr. Scott advised that he delivered letters to anyone who
signed the petition on what the plans were for that location; and explained that he
wished to apply for a dining room liquor license to serve beer and wine only, which
would enable his franchise, the Pizza Shack, to compete on a level playing field with its
competitors like Pizza Delight, Mario's and the Pizza Hut where they offer beer or wine
with pizza. Mr. Scott advised his willingness to enter into an agreement to close at 11 :00
p.m. just as he does now, and not to have video lottery terminals.
During discussion Mr. Scott advised that the Pizza Shack currently on the
property was a take-out only and he had difficulty getting day-time business, and also
that he was in receipt of letters in support of his proposal in addition to those referenced
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above; and, in the absence of floor and site plans, advised that, of the retail space
available now, approximately seventy per cent would remain the convenience store, with
the remaining space to be the proposed restaurant. In view of a concern about children
entering the convenience store being able to look into the proposed licensed restaurant
and view people drinking, Mr. Scott advised that he would have no trouble amending the
proposed opened archway to a door system. The lack of a site plan was noted and
reference was made to the difference in the Planning Advisory Committee's
recommendation to Council and Planning staff's recommendation to the Committee; and,
in response to a question as to whether or not a decision which gives the applicant a
twenty-five seat restaurant without the liquor license would be an improvement on his
current situation, Mr. Scott replied that it would be an improvement but not financially
worth it, based on the numbers he received from Pizza Hut franchise owners in terms of
a sit-in restaurant versus take-out, and sit-in with a license versus sit-in without a
license.
Councillor Fitzpatrick proposed a motion, which was not seconded, to
deny the request.
On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Deputy Mayor Chase
RESOLVED that Common Council
amend the Section 39 conditions imposed on the February 1,1971 re-zoning to "B-1"
Local Business classification of the property situated at 241 Millidge Avenue (NBGIC
Numbers 46987 and 48033), as amended on February 15, 1972 and December 7, 1992,
by replacing the conditions with the following: (1) the use of the site be limited to
residential units, a convenience/grocery store and a pizza franchise restaurant, having a
maximum of 25 seats but not including any facilities with a liquor license; (2) the site be
developed in accordance with a detailed site plan to be submitted to the Development
Officer for approval prior to the issuance of any building permit, illustrating the following:
(a) a solid fence with a height of not less than 1.2 metres (4 feet), located along the
common property line between the subject property and the property identified as civic
number 121 Spar Cove Road; (b) a mature tree having a minimum height of 1.5 metres
(5 feet) to be planted in the landscaped area located between the building and Millidge
Avenue; (c) one driveway to be located at the most eastern portion of the site with
access to Millidge Avenue, to be solely used for residential use; (d) a physical barrier be
provided to protect the existing landscaped area along Millidge Avenue; and (e) a raised
planter(s) be provided in the non-landscaped area, adjacent to Millidge Avenue; and (3)
the site development conditions listed in (2) above be completed no later than June 30,
2000.
It was noted that the above motion was Planning staff's recommendation
to the Planning Advisory Committee. Councillor Fitzpatrick expressed concern about the
enforcement of Section 39 conditions in view of the indication in the Planning staff report
that a number of conditions adopted by Council have not been fulfilled by previous
owners of the property. Councillor Titus referenced the outstanding Section 39
conditions, as well as Council's lack of jurisdiction to deal with VL Ts; and advised that he
would not support the staff recommendation on the basis of Mr. Scott's indication that he
would not proceed with his proposal, as financially it would not make any sense without
a liquor license.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillors Fitzpatrick
and Titus voting "nay".
On motion of Deputy Mayor Chase
Seconded by Councillor White
RESOLVED that the correspondence
regarding the above amendment be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
4. Municipal Plan Amendment
Property At 300 Boars Head Road
Public presentation was made of a proposed Municipal Plan amendment
to redesignate on Schedule 2-A, the Future Land Use Plan, a parcel of land with an area
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of approximately 3.5 acres, located at 300 Boars Head Road (NBGIC Numbers 51854
and 286146), from Business Park to Low Density Residential classification, to permit re-
zoning of the property from "I-R" Restricted Industrial to "IL-1" Neighbourhood
Institutional classification, and subsequent development of a senior citizens' residence,
as requested by Curry Brandaw Planners.
6. Bv-Iaw Re Halloween
On motion of Councillor Titus
Seconded by Deputy Mayor Chase
RESOLVED that the letter from
Councillor Titus proposing that, on the basis that local government should attempt to be
consistent in all matters and no one member of Council is vested with power to regulate,
the submitted copy of the City of Bathurst's By-law on Halloween, if approved in whole or
in part, be referred to the Legal Department for an opinion and eventual enactment, be
received and approved:
AND FURTHER that a by-law relating to Halloween be read a first time.
Councillor Titus advised that the point he was trying to make was that the
above was a matter with which Council would have to deal and make a decision on, but
one person could not do so, thus he put the by-law in front of Council to see if it could
pass in whole or in part. Councillor Fitzpatrick advised that he would not have a problem
referring the matter to the Legal Department, although he did not like the idea of passing
a by-law and subsequently referring it, as he had a concern about enforcement.
Councillor Court advised that, while he did not have a problem with Halloween being
celebrated on October 31 no matter what day of the week it fell on, he did have a
question about seven o'clock at night and a problem with enforcement and in
determining if someone was fourteen or sixteen years of age as that would require
people to carry identification and the Police to identify how old they are. Councillor
Chase asked if the mover of the motion would consider amending the by-law so that part
1 would read that Halloween shall be celebrated on the 31st day of October each year
except that when Halloween falls on a Sunday when it would be celebrated on Saturday,
to which Councillor Titus replied that he would do so if everybody around the Council
table agreed on that. Councillor Trites questioned Council's ability to give first and
second readings to a document that refers to the City of Bathurst, and suggested that
Council was rushing itself by a week or two with regard to this, referencing the indication
in the Bathurst By-law that facial disguises will not be permitted in public after 19:00
hours as possibly outlawing every Halloween party in the City.
On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Councillor Fitzpatrick
RESOLVED that the above matter be
referred to the City Solicitor.
Councillor White expressed concern about enforcement of a by-law of this
nature, and the Mayor advised that she could agree that Halloween would be celebrated
on October 31 as long as it was not on a Sunday, although the Police budget would be
quite high in order to police the City to ensure that nobody was out after seven o'clock
p.m. Councillor Titus expressed the view that this matter should not be referred, and
advised that he would amend the proposed by-law to indicate that Halloween shall be
celebrated on the 31 st day of October each year. Councillor Vincent spoke against
referring the motion, suggesting that Council should move a motion to adopt part 1 of the
submitted by-law. Councillor Trites offered to withdraw the referral motion and, in
response to the Mayor's question as to whether or not the seconder agreed, Councillor
Fitzpatrick indicated in the negative.
Question being taken, the referral motion was lost with all Council
members present voting "nay".
Moved in amendment by Councillor Titus
Seconded by Councillor Vincent
RESOLVED that the above submitted by-
law be amended by striking out the City of Bathurst and replacing it with the City of Saint
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John, and by adopting only part 1 thereof that Halloween shall be celebrated on the 31 st
day of October each year.
Question being taken, the motion, as amended, was carried with the
Mayor and Councillor Fitzpatrick voting "nay".
Read a first time a by-law relating to Halloween.
The Mayor asked for Council's consideration of item 5 at this time,
whereupon Councillor Trites, on a point of order, asked if it were the intent to proceed at
this time with second reading of the above-proposed by-law.
On motion of Councillor Titus
Seconded by Deputy Mayor Chase
RESOLVED that a by-law relating to
Halloween be read a second time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with the Mayor voting "nay".
Read a second time a by-law relating to Halloween.
5. Fundy Bay Holdings Limited Re Latimore Lake
And Area Residents Association's Presentation
Stephen Langille of Fundy Bay Holdings Limited appeared to respond to
comments made by the Latimore Lake and Area Residents Association at the November
22, 1999 Council meeting.
Stephen Langille of 1319 Main Street, Hampton, representing Fundy Bay
Holdings Limited, apprised Council of the history of Fundy Bay Holdings Limited, its
extraction of sand and gravel from its 460 Latimore Lake Road site, as well as its
activities at 475 Latimore Lake Road, referencing the outcome of Fundy Bay Holdings
Limited's June and September 1999 applications for temporary permits to extract gravel
from the 475 Latimore Lake Road site, as well as its May 1999 application for re-zoning
of this property to permit long-term extraction of sand and gravel, the re-zoning having
been denied by Council on July 12, 1999, although a letter had been submitted to
Council on the Company's behalf requesting to withdraw the application in view of an
indication of Community Planning's intent to revisit the pits and quarries aggregate
resource study as part of its 1999 work program and the Company felt confident that the
475 Latimore Lake Road location would fit into the regulations of the new pits and
quarries strategy. Mr. Langille advised that, while the Latimore Lake and Area Residents
Association presented its arguments against re-zoning, the Company was caught
unprepared to present its reasons in favour of the re-zoning as the usual method of
handling a request to withdraw a re-zoning application was for Council to withdraw it,
and noted that the denial of the re-zoning in effect denied the Company the opportunity
to apply for re-zoning for twelve months. Mr. Langille, responding to comments to
Council on November 22 on behalf of the Latimore Lake and Area Residents
Association, expressed the view that, as that there have been gravel pits in the Latimore
Lake Road area for decades, if people were leaving the area, it was to look for work not
because of pits; noted the number of gravel pits on Latimore Lake Road, advised that a
gravel pit could not be rehabilitated until it was excavated down to its finished grade at
which it would be ready for future development which was not the case at the 460
Latimore Lake Road pit except for a couple of small areas. Mr. Langille advised that he
would like to have a meaningful conversation and discussion with concerned neighbours
as to ways Fundy Bay Holdings Limited could lessen the impact of its operation on the
neighbourhood; however, no calls had been received from neighbours asking if the
Company could change anything or complaining about anything it was doing; and also
that he was waiting for a time and date for a meeting with his neighbours that MLA
Rodney Weston offered to facilitate. Mr. Langille commented on police frequency in the
Latimore Lake Road area and on the issue of accidents involving truck drivers employed
by Fundy Bay Holdings, as well as on the effect on his Company of calls to the
Department of the Environment and to the Building Inspector indicating that the
Company was hauling from an illegal pit. Mr. Langille, in addressing the thirty-day
extraction issue, suggested that communication was the problem, and asked if Council
would prefer that Fundy Bay Holdings Limited build a road on the other side so as to
come out on Loch Lomond Road rather than Latimore Lake Road. Mr. Langille
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encouraged Council to address in the budget the need to widen the shoulders on
Latimore Lake Road which is narrow and has no sidewalks; and advised of the
Company's offer last week to the Building Inspector to, at its own expense, put a
shoulder along the side of Latimore Lake Road on property which the Company owns
between the Latimore Lake Road School and Likely Road. Mr. Langille made the
observation that, if one of his neighbours had a problem with dust or trucks being started
early or such, he would think that that resident would call him instead of calling the police
or City staff to complain and, if the City through the Building Inspector and the Planning
Department could facilitate meetings and bring forward suggestions of changes the
Company could make other than close down, the Company would listen, and he would
be willing to meet with citizens and with staff to discuss changes that they may want the
Company to make to its operation and continue in business in its neighbourhood.
In response to a question about a meeting between the Company and
residents of the area, Mr. Langille suggested that they would need a facilitator; and he
advised that, on the thirty day issue, he defined this as being the extraction process
where material was extracted from the site.
Due to a power interruption, the Council meeting adjourned until
Thursday, December 9,1999 at 4:30 o'clock p.m.
Common Clerk