1998-03-02_Minutes
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MARCH 2, 1998
At a meeting of the Common Council, held at the City Hall in the City of
Saint John, on Monday, the second day of March, A.D. 1998, at 7:00 o'clock p.m.
present
Shirley McAlary, Mayor
Councillors Arthurs, Ball, Brown, Chase, Gould, Knibb, Trites,
Vincent and Waldschutz
- and -
Messrs. 1. Totten, City Manager; P. Woods, Deputy City
Manager; J. Nugent, City Solicitor; J. C. MacKinnon,
Commissioner of Environment and Development Services; P.
Groody, Commissioner of Municipal Operations; G. Yeomans,
Finance Comptroller; M. Jamer, Director of Water and Sewerage
Services; J. Baird, Manager of Community Planning; W.
Edwards, Building Inspector; C. Cogswell, Acting Chief of Police;
R. Simonds, Deputy Fire Chief; Mrs. M. Munford, Common Clerk;
and Ms. C. Mosher, Assistant Common Clerk.
1. MeetinQ Called To Order - OpeninQ Prayer
Mayor McAlary called the meeting to order, and Captain David W.
Parsons of the Church Army, Saint John Seafarers' Mission, offered the opening
prayer.
2. Approval of Minutes
On motion of Councillor Arthurs
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that minutes of the meeting of
Common Council, held on February 23, 1998, be approved.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
3(a) Zoning By-Law Amendment
To Re-Zone 117 Glen Road
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
completed with regard to the proposed re-zoning of two parcels of land located at 117
Glen Road (NBGIC Numbers 301481 and 301507), containing a total of approximately
30 metres (100 feet) of street frontage along Glen Road and a total area of
approximately 3,623 square metres (39,000 square feet), from "RS-2" One- and Two-
Family Suburban Residential to "R-4" Four-Family Residential classification, to place
the property in a zone category that reflects the present use as a three-unit dwelling, as
requested by (Leon) Leandre and Norma Girouard, and no written objections were
received in this regard.
3{b)
Consideration was given to a report from the Planning Advisory
Committee submitting a copy of Planning staff's report and one letter in support of the
above application considered at the Committee's February 24 meeting at which the
applicant indicated his agreement with staff's recommendation; and recommending that
Common Council amend the Zoning By-Law by re-zoning the property located at 117
Glen Road (NBGIC Numbers 301481 and 301507), from "RS-2" One- and Two-Family
Suburban Residential to "R-4" Four-Family Residential classification, subject to a
resolution pursuant to Section 39 of the Community Planning Act with the following
conditions: (a) the use of the property be limited to a maximum of three dwelling units,
and (b) the building be upgraded to satisfy all regulations of the Building and Minimum
Standards By-Laws.
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Mr. Leon Girouard of 74 Glen Road, appearing in support of his
application for the re-zoning of 117 Glen Road, advised that he bought the property last
October as three apartments, to find out that it was only zoned for two apartments, thus
the reason for the application to re-zone the subject property for three apartments.
In response to Councillor Trites, Mr. Girouard indicated in the affirmative
as to his agreement with the Planning Advisory Committee's recommendation, and
advised that the real estate people did not inform him that the building was not zoned
properly when he purchased it, and also that he lived across the street from the
property for twenty-four years during which time the building had three apartments and,
to his knowledge, it had been built with three apartments which was before he lived
there.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Trites
RESOLVED that the by-law to amend the
Zoning By-Law of the City of Saint John, insofar as it concerns re-zoning the property
located at 117 Glen Road (NBGIC Numbers 301481 and 301507), from "RS-2" One-
and Two-Family Suburban Residential to "R-4" Four-Family Residential classification,
subject to a resolution pursuant to Section 39 of the Community Planning Act as
recommended by the Planning Advisory Committee, be read a first time.
Councillor Trites asked if anything could be done in the City's
relationship with the Real Estate Association to ensure that, when it lists and sells a
property, it communicates to the purchaser when a building is in violation of the Zoning
By-Law. Mr. Baird advised that, at the present time, such inquiries were answered
quite freely by him and staff, although it was at the initiative of individual real estate
agents; however, staff could attempt to make contact with the Executive of the Real
Estate Association to impress upon it the importance of doing that; and also advised
that he would have to look into the question of whether or not an amendment to the
Association's Provincial legislation would be necessary to require the Association to do
so.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a first time the by-law to amend the Zoning By-Law of the City of
Saint John.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that the by-law to amend the
Zoning By-Law of the City of Saint John, insofar as it concerns re-zoning the property
located at 117 Glen Road (NBGIC Numbers 301481 and 301507), from "RS-2" One-
and Two-Family Suburban Residential to "R-4" Four-Family Residential classification,
subject to a resolution pursuant to Section 39 of the Community Planning Act as
recommended by the Planning Advisory Committee, be read a second time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a second time the by-law to amend the Zoning By-Law of the City
of Saint John.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Vincent
RESOLVED that the correspondence
regarding the above-proposed amendment be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
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On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Councillor Vincent
RESOLVED that the question of
disclosure to the purchaser of the appropriateness of zoning of properties when they
are sold be referred to the City Manager for a report to Council on how an enforcement
mechanism might be developed either by Councilor through a request to the Province.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
4(a) Zoning By-Law Text
Amendment Re Fees
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
completed with regard to a proposed Zoning By-Law text amendment to amend Section
910(3)(a)(ii) by deleting the number "$200" and inserting the number "$600", to
increase the amendment fee in order to offset the administrative costs associated with
By-Law text and re-zoning applications, as requested by the City of Saint John, and
4{c) a letter was received from Saint John Construction Association Inc. supporting the
position taken by The Greater Saint John Home Builders' Association Inc. which is the
same position it put forward in its letter to Council considered on November 17, 1997.
4{b)
Consideration was also given to a report from the Planning Advisory
Committee submitting material received from interested groups, most of which deals
also with the fee increases in the Building and Subdivision By-Laws, and a copy of
Planning staff's report to its February 24 meeting at which the Committee,
unfortunately, was not able to consider the matter as there was not a quorum for this
item; and recommending that Common Council hold the public hearing as advertised
but not give third reading until the Committee has had an opportunity to make a
recommendation.
Mr. Wayne Moore, President of The Greater Saint John Home Builders'
Association Inc., asked for clarification in that he was scheduled to address Council
under item 6 which would basically address the above-proposed amendment, which the
Association was against, and asked if he could make his presentation at this time. The
Mayor, in suggesting that Mr. Moore could attempt to concentrate his comments at this
time on the proposed Zoning By-Law amendment, asked if he was the spokesperson
for the Association and if he would be prepared to make his presentation, scheduled as
item 6, at this time, and Mr. Moore responded in the affirmative.
6. The Greater Saint John Home Builders'
Association Inc. - Increased Fees
For Subdivision And BuildinQ Permits
Mr. Moore addressed Council in opposition to the proposed Zoning By-
Law amendment to increase the amendment fee, as well as the increase in fees
charged for subdivision and building permits; and, reading from a previously-submitted
brief explained the reason. Mr. Moore asked Council not to approve these fee
increases, and give the Association an opportunity, as in the past on many projects, to
sit down with Building Inspection and Planning to see if there was some other solution
than raising fees.
Mr. Moore responded to questions in the above regard during which time
he advised that the Association would like to have input a few months earlier than when
the budget was scheduled to come out and the opportunity to meet with Building
Inspection and Planning monthly or every second month.
The Mayor noted that Council could proceed with first and second
readings of the proposed Zoning By-Law text amendment at this time and await the
Planning Advisory Committee's recommendation, or table the matter for two weeks.
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On motion of Councillor Vincent
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that the above matter be laid
on the table for two weeks.
Question being taken, the tabling motion was carried.
Staff was asked to advise Council of the anticipated revenue from the
above-proposed Zoning By-Law amendment, as well as the costs, including
advertising.
5. Municipal Plan Amendment
1245 Loch Lomond Road
Public presentation was made of a proposed Municipal Plan
amendment, which would amend Schedule 2-A and Section 2.4.7.15 by redesignating
a parcel of land located at 1245 Loch Lomond Road (portions of NBGIC Numbers
426460 and 434548), having a frontage of approximately 20 metres (66 feet) on the
north side of Loch Lomond Road and a total lot area of approximately 4.4 hectares (11
acres), from Light Industrial as an Approved Exception, to permit re-zoning of the parcel
of land from "RS-2" One- and Two-Family Suburban Residential to "1-1" Light Industrial
classification, in order to recognize the existing operation of a contractor's yard and
repair facility as well as to permit a variety of commercial-type uses in the future, as
requested by Hughes Surveys & Consultants Ltd.
7. Mavor's Remarks
Mayor McAlary advised that, as the Canadian Chiefs of Police
Association would be holding its annual conference in Saint John in the Year 2000, an
attempt was being made to have the Canadian Board of Police Commissioners meet at
that time in the City. Note was made of the forthcoming North American Short Track
Speedskating Championship to be held on March 27 to 29 at the Lord Beaverbrook
Rink.
7 A. Health Care Services
Consideration was given to a letter from Mayor McAlary advising of the
concerns expressed by members of the Saint John Medical Society to the Mayors from
St. Stephen to Sussex about under-funding for health care services to Region 2, and
that the Medical Society has made its view known to the Minister of Health, The
Honourable Russell King, but to no avail; and recommending that Council support the
members of the Medical Society publicly and pass a resolution to write a letter to the
Minister of Health outlining Council's concerns, copied to the local MLAs.
On motion of Deputy Mayor Chase
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to
the Minister of Health, with copies to the Premier of New Brunswick and the local MLAs,
to explain the situation at the Saint John Regional Hospital and Council's concern in
this regard.
It was suggested that a copy of the letter should also be sent to the three
prospective candidates for the office of Premier.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
8. Appointment Of
Chief City EnQineer
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Consideration was given to a report from the City Manager submitting a
recommendation to appoint a Chief City Engineer, rather than going through the
process of amending each of the specific by-laws in which the Chief City Engineer is
referenced, which is the same process that Council adopted with respect to former
Commissioner of Municipal Operations Charles Robichaud.
On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
City Manager, Common Council appoint Mr. Paul Groody, Commissioner of Municipal
Operations, as the Chief City Engineer as contemplated under Section 74(3) of the
Municipalities Act.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
9. Water StrateQV
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Vincent
RESOLVED that the report from the City
Manager advising that, further to Council's approval on December 8, 1997 of the award
of the Water Strategy to a consulting group headed by the Saint John firm of Godfrey &
Associates, the consultants have been very active and work on the Water Strategy is
well underway; and submitting a copy of survey questions to be used in a telephone
survey intended for typical residential users to determine the public's views on Water
and Sewerage services -- be received and filed.
During discussion Mr. Jamer advised that the survey would be done on
four hundred customers and, as to the possibility of the City tying into a water audit
being done by ACAP Saint John, advised that his understanding of ACAP Saint John's
project, which was a conservation project in an attempt to educate consumers and the
public as a whole about water conservation, was that it would meter the water used by
a customer before training in conservation and record the use after that training, and he
would not expect any overlap with the City's survey.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
10. Plebiscite On Wards
Read a report from the City Manager further to Council's referral at its
last meeting of a letter from the Municipal Electoral Officer rejecting the City's plebiscite
question; and presenting the following two questions, which have a high probability of
being approved for a plebiscite: (1) "Do you want the City divided into ten wards, of
approximate equal population, with one councillor to be elected by the voters in that
ward?"; and (2) "Do you want the City to be divided into three wards of approximately
equal population with two councillors to be elected by the voters of that ward, and four
councillors to be elected at large?". The report makes the observation that Council has
been put into a position where it must now make a choice in that, if a choice is not
made, the Province may feel compelled to make the choice for the City; and concludes
that, should Council believe that by submitting either one of these questions, Council is
essentially limiting the opportunity for residents to voice their preference as to other
alternatives, Council should so advise the Province, and the alternative to having a
single non-vague or confusing question asked by way of a plebiscite is simply to allow
the Council elected to enact a by-law implementing the wishes of Saint John residents
as determined by some method other than a plebiscite.
The Mayor noted the two examples of possible plebiscite questions in
the above report, as well as the City Solicitor's report on the matter of a possible
plebiscite question, and also noted the necessity of Council's decision in that the
proposed question had to be in Fredericton by March 9.
On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
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RESOLVED that the following question be
submitted to the Municipal Electoral Officer, to be included in a plebiscite during the
municipal election May 11, 1998: "Do you want the City to be divided into four wards of
approximately equal population with two councillors to be elected by the voters of that
ward, and two councillors to be elected at large?".
The initial motion proposed by Councillor Trites and seconded by
Councillor Knibb was for a two-part question so that people could check off one or the
other, one part being for an electoral or ward system of four wards electing two
councillors per ward, plus two councillors to be elected at large; the other part being for
a system of at-large election for councillors. The Mayor re-stated the question as
follows: "Do you want the City to be divided into four wards of approximately equal
population with two councillors to be elected in each ward by the voters of that ward,
and two councillors to be elected at large?", and the second being "Do you prefer the
present system of electing councillors at large?", both being yes or no questions,
whereupon Councillor Trites expressed concern with the yes or no question and asked
if it could be an either/or question as proposed. Mr. Nugent advised that, under the
current legislation, the question or questions posed must be presented as giving rise to
a yes/no response, either an affirmative or a negative response, noting that the
legislation provides that, if sixty per cent of the people voting vote in the affirmative,
Council must implement the result of that affirmative vote. Mr. Nugent made the
observation that one of the possible advantages of more than one question would be
that the electors would be able to express an opinion on a possibility that perhaps more
likely found favour with them, than simply accepting or rejecting a single proposition.
Councillor Knibb suggested that there was no need for two questions in that, by voting
no on the first part of the question proposed, a voter would be voting yes to the status
quo; and proposed that the question should be "Do you want the City to be divided into
four wards of approximately equal population with two councillors to be elected by the
voters of that ward, and two councillors to be elected at large?", whereupon Councillor
Trites agreed to delete the second portion of the question, and the motion was
changed as indicated. Councillor Waldschutz expressed the view that, as there was
not the slightest chance of getting a satisfactory answer from the electorate, as there
was the most supreme indifference to the electoral method at the municipal level,
Council should do nothing and let the deadline pass. Councillor Brown concurred with
the first question put forth in the City Manager's above report; and Councillor Gould
asked why there should be ten wards or two councillors, and expressed the belief that,
as the municipality was losing its power as more and more of the power is turned over
to non-elected boards and commissions which are not accountable to the elected
representatives, reducing the number of councillors to eight should be considered.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillors Brown,
Gould and Waldschutz voting "nay".
11. Possible Plebiscite Question
Consideration was given to a report from the City Solicitor setting out,
further to Council's February 23 referral of the letter from the Chief Electoral Officer
with regard to the City's plebiscite question, the prerequisites for a plebiscite question
as set out in the Municipal Elections Act, as well as the relevant sections of the
Municipalities Act dealing with the matter of establishing wards in a municipality for
municipal election purposes; and addressing a question, which had arisen since the
rejection of the question submitted to the Municipal Electoral Officer, of the prospect of
asking a multiple choice-styled question; and expressing the opinion that, if Council
saw fit, a series of appropriately-worded questions, each identifying one possible
manifestation of a ward system, could be submitted to plebiscite.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Waldschutz
RESOLVED that the above report
from the City Solicitor be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
(Councillor Vincent withdrew from the meeting.)
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12. Release Re Season's Ticket
Holders/Garth Brooks Concerts
Read a letter from the Common Clerk submitting a resolution adopted in
Legal Session of Common Council on February 23, 1998.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Trites
RESOLVED that the Mayor and Common
Clerk be authorized to execute a release in favour of Saint John Pro Sports Inc. for any
claims in connection with any claimed right of first refusal held by horseshoe season's
ticket holders for the Garth Brooks concerts held in September 1996, in exchange for a
similar release from Saint John Pro Sports Inc.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
13. Planning Advisory Committee Re
Subdivision 80 Lakewood Avenue West
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Trites
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
Planning Advisory Committee, Common Council assent to the submitted photo-reduced
subdivision plan and any required municipal services and public utility easements with
regard to the subdivision at 80 Lakewood Avenue West, on the condition that the plan
is amended to illustrate Parcel "A" as a future public street.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
14. Archan Investments Ltd. - Sidewalks And
DrainaQe Surfaces. 115-123 Hazen Street
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that the letter from Archan
Investments Ltd. registering a formal complaint with regard to the state of patchwork on
the sidewalks and the poor drainage surfaces in front of the Medical Arts Buildings at
115 and 123 Hazen Street; and petitioning Council to have the street and sidewalks
resurfaced to make the area more pleasant and safer for walking and driving -- be
referred to the City Manager.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
15. MarQaret Haze - Tree PlantinQ
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that the letter from Margaret
Haze suggesting that trees should be planted around Chown Field, along Thorne
Avenue, especially where the cemetery is behind the former Canadian Tire Store, as
well as on Bayside Drive -- be referred to the City Manager.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
16. Richard C. Walsh
Re Property Uses
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Waldschutz
RESOLVED that the letter from
Richard C. Walsh referring to a newspaper article regarding a Loch Lomond car lot
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getting a 12-month reprieve, and expressing his views on businesses moving into
residential areas -- be received and filed and Mr. Walsh be thanked for his letter.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
17. Melanie Guerette - Participation In
Canada World Youth ExchanQe ProQram
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Waldschutz
RESOLVED that the letter from
Melanie Guerette advising that, as part of her engagement to Canada World Youth,
she must contact various organizations in the community in order to inform them of her
participation in the exchange program with Nicaragua next summer and to obtain
sponsors, and that she would be prepared to present her slide slow once the project
has been completed -- be received and filed and Miss Guerette be advised that Council
finds it is unable to sponsor her participation.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
(Councillor Vincent re-entered the meeting.)
18. Church Of St. John & St. Stephen
Re-ZoninQ Of 108 Hazen Avenue
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Ball
RESOLVED that the application of the
Church of St. John & St. Stephen for the re-zoning of property at 108 Hazen Street be
referred to the Planning Advisory Committee for a report and recommendation and the
necessary advertising be authorized in this regard, with the public hearing to be held on
Tuesday, April 14, 1998, at 7:00 o'clock p.m.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
19. Hughes Surveys & Consultants Ltd.
Re-Zoning Of Property Adjacent To
Spruce Lake Industrial Park
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Waldschutz
RESOLVED that the application of
Hughes Surveys & Consultants Ltd. for the re-zoning of property adjacent to the Spruce
Lake Industrial Park be referred to the Planning Advisory Committee for a report and
recommendation and the necessary advertising be authorized in this regard, with the
public hearing to be held on Tuesday, April 14, 1998, at 7:00 o'clock p.m.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Adiournment
On motion of Councillor Trites
Seconded by Councillor Waldschutz
RESOLVED that this meeting be
adjourned and a Committee of the Whole meeting of Council be held.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
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Common Clerk