1993-11-29_Minutes_(2)
Mr. Rodgers confirmed that, if difficulties arise during negotiations, Council has the full
unobstructed authority to turn it down. During discussion the Deputy Mayor suggested
that Council should let the legislation proceed and, if and when enacted, reconsider the
letters received in this regard and meet with the Irving family; and the initial motion to
receive and file the letter from the United Empire Loyalists' Association was changed to
that above.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillor Landers
voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Chase
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that the letter from Joan
Pearce registering her objection to the intention of the City of Saint John to apply for the
enactment of a private bill for the erection of a statue in the Loyalist Burial Ground in
memory of the late Kenneth Colin Irving, and requesting an opportunity to express her
concerns to Common Council in open session on Monday, December 6, 1993 -- be
received and filed and Mrs. Pearce be advised that she will be given an opportunity to
approach Council when the matter is considered further.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Landers
Seconded by Councillor Trites
RESOLVED that Common Council request
the Provincial Legislature and the mover of the proposed amendment to the 1848 Act to
delay consideration of the matter until the Spring Sitting of the Legislature until Council
has had all the input in this regard.
(Councillor Rogers withdrew from the meeting.)
Question being taken, the motion was lost with Deputy Mayor McAlary
and Councillors Chase, Gould, Knibb, A. Vincent and M. Vincent voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Chase
RESOLVED that the letter from Saint John
Fire Fighters' Association, Local Union No. 771, I.A.F.F., opposing the intention of
Common Council to make application to the Province to repeal the City of Saint John
Pension Act and to seek authority to have the City Pension Plan administered by City
by-law; and advising that the Pension Trustees nor the members of the Association were
ever notified of such intent by the City of Saint John, which appears to be in violation of
Section 24(1) of the Pension Benefits Act of the Province of New Brunswick, and that it
trusts that the City will reconsider its intention and continue with the present system of
administration -- be received and filed.
(Councillor Rogers re-entered the meeting.)
During discussion Mr. Rodgers re-iterated his opinion to Council on
November 22 that the action taken recently by Council did not constitute a violation of
the section referred to in the above letter, and that, if the Municipalities Act is amended
to permit municipalities to enact their pension regulations by by-law, further action would
have to be taken by Council, before it enacts a by-law, to have the current Pension Act
repealed, which would have to go back to the Provincial Legislature as a private
members bill; and explained that it is at that point that it mayor may not be an issue with
respect to following various procedures in the sense of what the Fire Fighters'
Association is referring to as possible violations. Councillor Knibb, a Pension Board
Trustee, advised that he met with the Retirees' earlier this date at which time he
attempted to assure them that there is no plot by the City to take away any of the
security of the City's Pension Fund; and Mr. Wilson, Treasurer of the Pension Board,
commented on the matter from the point of view of two or three major unsuccessful
undertakings, at great cost to the Pension Plan, to try to get amendments made to the
City of Saint John Pension Act, in that it was incumbent to look at some other way of
administering the Plan, and one of these ways, which is done by other municipalities and
being suggested in this case, is to request that the Municipalities Act be amended to
permit Council to deal with amendments to the Pension Plan through a by-law, rather
than having to pursue amendments through the Provincial Legislature, and that this
request does not affect the City's current Act.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Chase
RESOLVED that the letter from The Saint
John District Labour Council expressing concern that no meetings have been held by the
committee struck in accordance with Common Council resolution of August 3 to deal
with the closure of Labatt's Brewery, and the Brewery is scheduled to close on
December 10; and requesting that a meeting take place with those identified in the
subject Council resolution -- be received and filed and the City Manager be instructed to
respond to the Saint John District Labour Council explaining that its best interests have
been looked after.
Councillor Knibb initially proposed a motion to refer the above letter to the
City Manager, such motion changed to that above following Mr. Totten's explanation that
the morning after Council instructed him to get in touch with the Saint John District
Labour Council he received a call from The Honourable Jane Barry who indicated the
action she had already taken with respect to establishing a committee to deal with the
issue of Labatt's, and that former Mayor Elsie Wayne and he attended the first meeting
of that group which included representatives from the Greater Saint John Economic
Development Commission, the Provincial Department, several representatives from the
Province, the Board of Trade, and representatives of both the Labatt's employee group
and of Labatt's itself; and he advised that, at that time, a number of working committees
were struck and, since that time, the Greater Saint John Economic Development
Commission has a sub-committee looking for potential uses for the Labatt's building. Mr.
Totten made the observation that, following the meeting, he reported to Council that he
was not going to take any further action on establishing the committee in question
because the real challenge is to have the resources available to bring another party to
the table with respect to the future utilization of the Labatt's building, which is really
where the Province and Labatt's and others are involved, and there are many people
seeking alternative uses for the plant.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Chase
RESOLVED that the letter from The Anti-
Pornography Coalition expressing concern about the recent establishment of a new
adult video store on Waterloo Street on the basis of the Association's belief that the
presence of adult video stores and the sale of pornographic material in the community is
posing a serious threat to families, teenagers and its neighbours in general; and asking
Common Council to review the current situation and the growing menace of pornography
in the City and go on record as opposing the sale and distribution of pornography and
give responsible leadership by enacting policies which would restrict those who would
sell and distribute this type of material in this community -- be received and filed.
Councillor Chase asked what legal right the City has to regulate the
above-type of business to which Mr. Rodgers expressed the opinion that, if the question
is dealing with the moral questions, Council does not have the authority to regulate that;
and advised that, if Council so wished, he could review what is occurring in other parts of
Canada and determine if it would be possible for the City to restrict businesses of this
type in certain areas through a by-law. Chief Sherwood advised that the above type of
business would be the subject of scrutiny and investigation by the Liquor and Morality
Squad and that, to date, he is unaware of any problems with this particular institution in
the City, other than some concern being raised over its advertising and location; and,
with respect to the age limit, spot checks and surveillance could be done and the
Department would respond to any complaint as well, if a citizen felt that a person in the
business establishment was, in fact, under 18 years of age.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Deputy Mayor McAlary
and Councillors Gould and M. Vincent voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that the letter from Mr.
Colin Whitcomb, Director of First Night Saint John, updating Council on the status of the
First Night Festival of the Arts in Saint John since the Board's presentation to Council in
early autumn; thanking Council for its support of the Festival; and advising that, while
considerable progress has been made on all aspects of the Festival by the end of
October, it is the opinion of the First Night Board of Directors that it has insufficient time
to proceed with a First Night Festival for 1993, and has contacted the International
Alliance of First Night Festivals in Boston and advised that First Night Saint John will
hold its inaugural Festival in 1994, not 1993 -- be received and filed with regret that First
Night will not be initiated this year in Saint John.
Deputy Mayor McAlary expressed the understanding that the First Night
Board did not have the time necessary to arrange all of the acts at this time but is
looking forward to having the event in 1994.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Consideration was given to notes from the Chairman of The Market
Square Corporation reporting on the final costing for the project budgets administered by
the Corporation for Harbour Station, Council having approved budgets in the amounts of
$17,000,000 for construction of the building proper, $1,620,500 for the Prime
Consultant's contract, $150,000 for project management fees of The Market Square
Corporation, $165,000 for design and outside services, and $16,200 for design/cost
review, for total project budgets of $18,951,700 under the administration of The Market
Square Corporation.
Messrs. H. Meinhardt, Chairman; J. Shackleton, General Manager; and
S. Appleby, Assistant General Manager, of The Market Square Corporation, were
present at the meeting, and Mr. Meinhardt addressed Council, and explained that the
final cost for the building as originally conceived will be $18,726,436, or 98.8% of the
budget, with changes made during the construction process to improve the building and
its operation, including such items as the private club area, finishing of concession
areas, and services necessary for some of the operating equipment, such as the score
clock, at a total cost of $1,013,841, with the operating cost savings for these
improvements yielding a net present value of $1,042,000; and requested Council's
approval of an increase in the original budget of $18,951,700 to $19,740,277, an amount
of $788,577, or 4.2% over the Corporation's budget.
In response to Council queries, Mr. Meinhardt commented on the
changes in the original design and the associated additional costs and anticipated
revenue, with regard to private boxes whereby, rather than leaving the area open for
finishing by the purchasers of the private boxes, the area was finished to accommodate
a club area for which citizens would buy memberships and the Commission would
operate on behalf of the City, and two private booths; and, concerning the concession
area which was to be left open for lease and completion at the cost of the
concessionaires with water and electricity to be provided, the tendering of the
concession area and subsequent engagement of Ogden Concessionaires to look after
all the concessions, with the agreement being that the City would complete the areas for
Ogden and Ogden would provide $500,000 worth of equipment for the areas to revert to
the City in seven years and also the City gets a return of 20% of the income of anything
sold in the concessions. Councillor Gould expressed the opinion that there was no
justification whatsoever for the Corporation to have presented this item in Committee of
the Whole earlier this date as it is not a legal document and does not involve
personalities, but is a continuation of the motion adopted by Council on September 27;
reiterated his objection, as expressed in Committee of the Whole earlier this date, to
have been given supporting documents less than an hour before Council was asked to
make a decision concerning items running into over $100,000; and asked why the
Corporation did not apprise Council on September 27, when Council approved an
amount of $300,000, that this did not pay for all the outstanding costs but that there were
substantial overruns on the project, and also how the Corporation could submit to
Council on this date supporting documents which have not been approved by the Board;
to which Mr. Meinhardt replied that the Corporation reported to Council all along during
the construction of the project, which should be documented in the minutes, and that the
Corporation did not need the Board's approval of the documents submitted to Council
earlier this date.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Landers
RESOLVED that Common Council
approve an increase in the original budget of $18,951,700 to $19,740,277 administered
by The Market Square Corporation for the Saint John Regional Exhibition Centre.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillors Gould and
A. Vincent voting "nay".
Consideration was given to a report from the City Manager submitting a
schedule which compares the budget for the Saint John Regional Exhibition Centre with
the estimated costs to complete as prepared on November 29, 1993; and explaining
that, while the schedule shows that the total project is $648,848, or 2.6% over budget, it
must be realized that the City has obtained much more in the completed project than
anticipated when the budget was prepared; for instance, the scoreboard alone will have
a final cost of $455,000, as approved by Council on the basis of its revenue producing
potential; the total land cost includes more land (i.e. the escarpment) than was
necessary for the Centre which will, no doubt, be a valuable asset to the City in years to
come; and, in addition, there are many enhancements made to the facility which will be
more adequately explained by members of The Market Square Corporation.
Mr. Wilson highlighted the above report, and expressed the opinion that,
while the total costs are over budget by approximately $649,000, the value for that can
be found and it simply was not a matter of costs being incurred with no benefit seen for
them; and, with regard to financing from the other two levels of government, advised that
the Province contributed $12,400,000 toward the structure and $800,000 towards the
cost of Station Street, and the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency gave a grant of
$250,000, and also that one source of revenue did not materialize the way the City had
expected, that being a million dollars from the business community with the idea that
certain pieces of equipment might be donated; however, the revenue being received
from the outlying municipalities, the scoreboard and the other enhancements, should
have a long-term impact much more than financing of the million dollars.
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that the above report
from the City Manager be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Trites
RESOLVED that this meeting be
adjourned.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.