1991-02-04_Minutes
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At a meeting of the Common Council, held at the City Hall in the City of
Saint John, on Monday, the fourth day of February, AD. 1991, at 7:00 o'clock p.m.
present
Elsie E. Wayne, Mayor
Councillors Coughlan, Davis, Fitzpatrick, Flewwelling, Gould,
Knibb, Landers, Rogers, A Vincent and M. Vincent
- and -
Messrs. G. Taylor, City Manager; F. Rodgers, City Solicitor; D.
Wilson, Commissioner of Finance; C. Robichaud, Assistant City
Manager - Operations; J. C. MacKinnon, Commissioner of
Environment and Infrastructure Services; S. Bedford, Director of
Community Planning; S. Armstrong, Director of Engineering; W.
D. Todd, Director of Housing and Property Management; W.
Butler, Director of Water and Sewerage Services; S. Galbraith,
Director of Supply and Services; R. McDevitt, Fire Chief; J.
McNamee, Assistant Deputy Chief of Police; M. Hanlon,
Purchasing Agent; C. Campbell, Manager - Policy Planning; J.
Baird, Manager, Development Division; R. Smith, Administrator,
Parking Commission; Mrs. M. Munford, Common Clerk; and Ms.
C. Joyce, Assistant Common Clerk.
Pastor David Jamer of Saint John Alliance Church offered the opening
prayer.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that minutes of the
meeting of Common Council, held on January 28, 1991, be approved.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Her Worship the Mayor proclaimed the month of February 1991 to be Air
Cadet Month and Cable Television Month in the City of Saint John.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that the request for a
grant for the New Brunswick Police Curling Bonspiel (which was considered in
Committee of the Whole earlier this date) be added to the agenda for consideration at
this meeting.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
completed with regard to (a) a proposed Municipal Plan amendment to redesignate on
Schedule 2-A, the Future Land Use Plan, the following properties from Medium Density
Residential to District Centre Commercial classification: 354 Main Street (L.R.I.S.
Number 370445),24-26 Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number 368894),28 Douglas
Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number 368886), 36 Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number 368878), 50
Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number 368860), 56 Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number
380329),60 Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S. Number 368852), 80 Douglas Avenue (L.R.I.S.
Number 368845), and Chesley Drive and Main Street (L.R.I.S. Number 363613); (b) re-
zoning all of the above-noted properties from "RM-1" Three-Storey Multiple Residential
to "ID" Integrated Development classification, except that portion of L.R.I.S. Number
373613 on Chesley Drive already zoned "ID" Integrated Development classification;
and (c) amending the proposal adopted on July 3, 1973 with respect to that portion of
L.R.I.S. Number 373613 on Chesley Drive presently zoned "ID" Integrated
Development classification, to permit the development of a multi-use proposal involving
an office building, retail space, indoor parking facilities, apartment building and hotel
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development, as requested by Malcolm Thorne, Douglas Thorne and Thorcor Holdings
Ltd., and that 32 letters of objection were received in this regard, and that a letter of
support was received from The Board of Directors of the North End Residents and
Business Association, as well as a letter from the Preservation Review Board regarding
the proposal.
Consideration was also given to a letter from the Planning Advisory
Committee submitting a copy of the Planning staff report and ten letters of which nine
are in opposition and one is in support of the above proposal, which were considered
by the Committee at its January 29 meeting, at which two persons other than the
applicant spoke in favour of the proposed mixed commercial and residential
development, and a number of residents spoke for those in opposition to the proposal
citing concerns related to scale, traffic, safety, drinking establishments, and the need to
maintain the residential environment of Douglas Avenue, and a short presentation was
made by the Preservation Review Board indicating its intention to pursue the initial
designation of a large portion of Douglas Avenue, including that portion of the subject
site which fronts on Douglas Avenue and Main Street; advising that Committee
members discussed with the applicant the concerns raised at the meeting and noted
that the staff report suggests that a modified development proposal could address
these concerns and that, when questioned whether the applicant was open to working
with staff toward a modified proposal, Malcolm Thorne noted that he would be open to
nominal changes but wished to proceed with his application; and recommending that
the application be approved.
Mr. Thomas O'Neil of 272 Douglas Avenue appeared on his own behalf
and on behalf of a number of concerned residents of Douglas Avenue in opposition to
the above-proposed change in the Municipal Plan and the proposed re-zoning on the
basis that the size, scale and scope of the project is not appropriate; advised that
significant concern exists for traffic, safety and the need to maintain the residential
environment of Douglas Avenue; and also advised that, despite two apparent
misconceptions, Douglas Avenue residents are not opposed to development and
change and are in favour of development in keeping with the present, and sympathetic
with, the residential environment of Douglas Avenue, nor is it the case that residents'
concerns are based upon support for the development of the heritage management
zone and opposition to the proposed demolition of three or four structures in that the
Thorcor proposal as the heritage management zone are separate distinct issues and
should not be confused. Mr. O'Neil explained that residents' concerns relate to the
following issues:- (1) the City presently owns, of the 6-acre site in question, in excess of
3 acres and it is the residents' understanding that Thorcor has no option, nor
agreement of purchase and sale in respect to the City land, and further that Thorcor
has rejected the terms and conditions upon which the City has offered to sell the land,
in particular, the City's repurchase option if the property is not developed within a
specific timeframe and is proposing that the land vest fully in Thorcor once it applies for
and obtains a building permit in excess of $100,000, which would mean that Thorcor
would then be free to sell the land and stop the development without having taken any
action on the property; (2) Thorcor has no specific development timetable for the site,
with no start date for any phase, no tenants signed up, no financing in place and no
detailed feasibility studies done concerning any aspect of the project, and serious
questions exist as to the overall feasibility of the project and the developer's ability to
complete it, and further that the vague proposal put forth by Thorcor and Mr. Thorne's
statements about senior City staff make it virtually impossible for them to work together
to come to an acceptable proposal with respect to this site or a Section 39 agreement.
Mr. O'Neil further advised the Douglas Avenue residents' concerns to the three-part
application dealing with a proposed Municipal Plan amendment, a re-zoning, and a
Section 39 agreement are best stated in the Planning staff report; expressed the
opinion that the present proposal, with its degree of commercial development of the
site, does not meet the policy in the Municipal Development Plan related to permitting
major development outside of the central area in that the Thorcor project could severely
prejudice the viability of the Mercantile Centre project which is to proceed on Union
Street, and there is vacant space in Hilyard Place, the Zellers' building on Lansdowne
Avenue and in buildings on Main and Metcalf Streets and, as well, Thorcor's proposal
for a destination inn and condominium hotel suite tower is being put forward in a market
where the hotels in the uptown area of the City are having a most difficult time;
therefore, the commercial designation into the residential area in question should not
be allowed as it would have significant impact on the other commercial areas of the
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City, and suggested that the Thorcor proposal is also incompatible with other planning
statements of the City, such as the North End Urban Renewal Scheme and the North
End Neighbourhood Plan, and that the existing commercial development in the City's
North End would be more enhanced by residential development, rather than
commercial development, the Scheme having provided for residential development
which has not taken place, while commercial development has occurred as a result of
the Scheme, including Hilyard Place, Keddy's, Place 400 and Howard Johnsons; and
that a small commercial use fronting on Chesley Street would be acceptable, with
additional residential use and that this could form a revised proposal for the area in
question. With respect to the proposed re-zoning, Mr. O'Neil explained that the basic
objection to the change in zoning is that the size and scope of the proposed project is
too great and is the wrong use of the property in question and not sympathetic to the
residential nature of the adjoining neighbourhood; referred to the Planning
Department's report relative to staff's observation with respect to the residential nature
of Douglas Avenue, the matter of parking in that a spill-over onto neighbouring
residential streets would be anticipated with the present proposal, traffic in that the
proposed destination inn component would have the potential to increase traffic
volumes by 21 per cent alone on Douglas Avenue, and that a re-evaluation of the
project and a detailed traffic impact evaluation should be considered during the
redesign process, the general urban design in that streetscape of the project is not
appropriate as its size and scope do not blend into the existing neighbourhood, nor is
the use of glass and steel in the exterior building compatible with the neighbourhood,
and design issues which become more important when it is considered that the site is
part of a significant heritage area. Mr. O'Neil also suggested that the portion of the
project for a proposed office building should be re-evaluated as the space is located
outside the central business district and is contrary to the policies in the Municipal
Development Plan and the recently-adopted Goals For Saint John, the design of the
office development does not respond to the characteristics of the neighbourhood, the
parking and traffic generated by the office must be managed so that it does not impact
on Douglas Avenue, and the scale of this portion of the project is completely out of
character, size and scope and should not be supported; and with respect to the
proposed condominium hotel development, expressed the opinion that this will have a
significant impact on the presently under-utilized hotels in the central business district
of Saint John, the commercial nature is not appropriate as part of a residential
neighbourhood, and the height, scale, location and design detail of the hotel are not
appropriate for the area and are insensitive to the nature of the residential
neighbourhood, and traffic, as presently set up, will be directed from the hotel towards
Douglas Avenue; and, concerning the proposed destination inn, expressed the
understanding that this would create the second largest hotel accommodation in the
City after the Delta Brunswick Hotel, in an area where the hotel market is not that
strong, and that the proposal and number of accommodations would create a major
commercial complex, again not in keeping with the residential nature, with insufficient
parking for the rooms provided and the proposed restaurant, banquet and lounge
facilities, and traffic flows would increase greatly. Concerning a proposed Section 39
agreement, Mr. O'Neil suggested that such an agreement would have to be very site
specific and detailed in nature, and it is of great concern that the developer has
indicated that he cannot live with the terms and conditions in the City's offer to sell the
land, as is Thorcor's attitude toward City staff in that it would make it virtually impossible
to negotiate and complete any reasonable Section 39 agreement. Mr. O'Neil
concluded his presentation by requesting that the subject application not be granted.
In response to Council queries, Mr. O'Neil advised that, while there is no
formal neighbourhood organization, he represents a great many residents of Douglas
Avenue and, in fact, having spoken to many residents and attended a meeting on
February 3, he is unaware of any Douglas Avenue resident who is in favour of the
above proposal, other than Mr. Douglas Thorne; explained that, with respect to the
possible effect on the proposed Mercantile Centre of the Thorcor project, tenants would
be split and neither project would be viable if both proceeded and that, based on his
understanding, the Mercantile Centre still has much vacant space, even with Provincial
tenancy, and that other projects could be harmful to its viability; and expressed the
understanding that Douglas Avenue residents in concept, while they would like to see a
specific proposal, are fully in agreement with some commercial use of the site in
question, although not of the size, scale and scope of the present Thorcor proposal.
Ms. Valerie Evans of 303 Douglas Avenue appeared in opposition to the
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above-proposed amendments and, reading from a prepared brief (a copy of which she
subsequently filed with the Common Clerk) explained that, while she is an advocate of
heritage preservation for Saint John, it is not for this reason she is before Council at
this time but that she is present because of what she does not know about the
proposal, having attended the Planning Advisory Committee meeting in this regard and
having heard Mr. Malcolm Thorne speak about the project without describing it in any
real terms, nor indicating what would happen to the subject property if the re-zoning
were approved. Ms. Evans asked what the applicant intends specifically to do with the
area if it is re-zoned; suggested that, as it now appears that the applicant has two
different proposals for the site, it should be determined which plan is under
consideration at this time; and asked if it is the intent for exits/entrances to the
proposed buildings and the parking lots to be on Douglas Avenue or Chesley Drive.
Ms. Evans recommended that, if this proposal is seriously being considered, Council
should refer the matter to City staff for insertion of conditions and clarification on a
number of issues, including traffic routes, the exact amount of retail space, and the
exact number and types of restaurants and lounges which will be included; and asked
Council to consider the following questions: (1) if a large portion of the property in
question belongs to the City, has the City called for development proposals from other
developers to maximize the return to the City; (2) why the City is considering changing
the zoning on land which technically still belongs to it; (3) what are the results of the
market survey with respect to vacancy rates of hotel rooms, office space,
condominiums and executive apartments in the Saint John area; (4) is the City, as in
approved development projects in the past, considering including a provision for an
agreement for a firm completion date for this project and if that date is not met will the
project be discontinued; and (5) if the re-zoning is approved, would the City put in a
condition that all of the Chesley Street area be wholly developed before beginning the
destruction on Douglas Avenue.
Mr. Dale Russell of 170 Douglas Avenue addressed Council in
opposition to the above application and expressed concern, if the project is approved,
about (a) ensuing problems associated with the traffic increase, such as more
accidents, noise, pollution and parking; (b) possible further commercial re-zoning
resulting; (c) possible damage to properties in the area, such as the case during
blasting for the Saint John Harbour Bridge which resulted in damage to his residence,
which could result; (d) whether or not existing watermains will be adequate for both
Douglas Avenue and this project without diminishing services on the basis that there is
now a noticeable drop in pressure in the area during peak demand; and (e) how the
lifestyle of residents in this area could be interrupted and inconvenienced by the
number of licensed drinking establishments proposed for the project. Mr. Russell
stated that he has no objections to improving and developing the North End or Douglas
Avenue; however, he truly believes that the Thorcor proposal, as it stands, would not
be good for the City or the North End.
During discussion, Mr. Russell advised that he has a pump and a holding
tank in the basement of his residence to increase the water pressure in his home and
that his property is approximately 20 feet higher than the Thorcor property which is
approximately 130 feet above sea level, and that it is his understanding that a two-inch
line will laid off the existing ten-inch watermain on Douglas Avenue.
Mr. Mark Smith of 149 Douglas Avenue addressed Council in opposition
to the above proposal on the grounds of its viability and need; expressed concern
about the total lack of basic data connected with the project, and asked why the
applicant would want to build an 11-storey office tower in excess of 126,000 square
feet in an area which already has in excess of 75,000 square feet of vacant office
space. Mr. Smith noted the problem of selling condominiums in the City, as well as the
difficulty hotels have in keeping their occupancy rate up; questioned what recourse
there would be for citizens, business and churches should damage occur from blasting
for the project; and expressed concern about the increased traffic in the area should
the project proceed. Mr. Smith referred to questions related to how the proposal fits
with the City's development plan, whether or not the project will add to the growth of the
North End, and how the project will affect downtown development; and asked Council
to squash the project for the protection of Douglas Avenue, the citizens and the City of
Saint John.
Mr. Ray Butler of 169 Douglas Avenue appeared in opposition to the
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above application and suggested that, as the civic administration and staff have worked
in the citizens' interests in the development of goals for the City's future as evidenced in
the Municipal Development Plan and so on, the City should be firm in insisting that
developers keep these goals in mind when initiating development with the City and that,
while new development should be welcomed, it should be in sympathy with the goals of
the City and massive changes to the goals should be carefully scrutinized. Mr. Butler
expressed the opinion that the project is too large for the size of the subject property,
the buildings are not in scale, nor is there any semblance of buffer zones between the
office and residential sections; expressed concern about the potential traffic and
parking problem and concurred with the concerns broached in the Planning staff report.
Mr. Butler suggested that, while development of Dean's Hill, Main Street and Douglas
Avenue is possible, desirable and even welcomed, care should be taken in balancing
the scale where commercial developments meld into residential neighbourhoods, and
that a parking lot between the new residences and the older-type homes on Douglas
Avenue is not going to meld. Mr. Butler also advised that, although some onus should
be on a developer to design with municipal standards and regulations in mind, the
concerns have not been addressed by the applicant to the area residents; and
concluded that the Thorcor proposal, as it is now presented, should not be an
appropriate development in the Douglas Avenue area.
Mr. Mark Hayward, Chairman of the Preservation Review Board,
appeared in opposition to the above application and, referring to the above-mentioned
letter from the Board, commented on the status of the study of Douglas Avenue as a
preservation area, as well as on the Thorcor proposal with respect to possible
demolition of buildings with the Board's position being that, if demolition is pursued, the
process set out in the Preservation Area By-Law be followed and that, if the third and
least desirable course were pursued, which would be full demolition and wholly new
construction, the Board recommends that the new construction meet the criteria of the
current Preservation By-law and be compatible in size, scale, proportions and materials
to nearby buildings or, in these respects, similar to those demolished. Mr. Hayward
also commented on the scale of new condominium/hotel development proposed, the
retention of deBury House and its front yard to Main Street, and the proposed
destination inn; and expressed the opinion that a substantial portion of a development
like that proposed by Thorcor could be accomplished while retaining the very significant
qualities of Douglas Avenue. Mr. Hayward noted that the Board strongly advocates the
retention and rehabilitation of existing buildings and substantial reduction of the
massing of new construction as it affects the Douglas Avenue streetscape, and
recommends that a redesign consider placing any larger buildings further down the hill.
Mr. Malcolm Thorne, President of Thorcor Holdings Ltd., appeared in
support of the above application; and explained that the objective in the development
of Dean's Hill is to create a significant urban development that, architecturally and
functionally, would provide the City of Saint John with much-needed facilities in concert
with an outstanding architectural statement and that, in developing the proposal,
concerns were identified that had to be addressed to meet the City's objectives, the first
and foremost being the creation of a structure and space which would provide a unique
urban forum with a variety of colours, textures and contours that stimulate and excite
the beholder while maintaining and upgrading three buildings deserving of preservation
and commercial enhancement; the second being to provide for mixed uses that result in
an economic return and also support day and evening active use of the property
throughout the week; the third being the creation of residential living, offices and visitor
accommodation of a class and style largely unavailable in the City of Saint John; and
the fourth being the provision of public space where people can relax and interact well,
appreciating the magnificent views of the Saint John core, the Harbour, the River
systems, and much more within the vantage point of the site. Mr. Thorne suggested
that parking requirements are well recognized in the development plans and that
sufficient parking has been designed to meet the needs of people destined for
expanding commercial areas of downtown Saint John, and that the Thorcor proposal
meets the City's criteria in every way that is reasonable, logical and appropriate. Mr.
Thorne referred to a drawing of the proposed project (copies of which were distributed
to Council members during his presentation) and commented on the proposed office
building, condominium residence, urban inn, parking garage with its principal means of
entry/egress to be Chesley Drive, and the site's potential for additional condominium
development. Mr. Thorne made the observation that Thorcor's original application for
re-zoning of approximately 10 1/2 to 11 acres was changed, at the City's discretion, to
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become 6.4 acres of land and that, within the plans, much of the green space
parklands to impact with the benefits of the urban inn destination resort came with the
additional parcel of land which is included in the transfer agreement for which Council
has made an agreement in principle to sell to Thorcor; and that Thorcor was not
advised of this, nor did it give its consent, in this regard. Mr. Thorne noted that the
proposed development will provide major contributions to the City's economic base in
terms of municipal taxation and direct employment; also advised that urban design
principles are employed to create a public open space that will be pedestrian-friendly,
with a substantial portion of the site to be landscaped open space and that the floor
area ratio is about one-to-one and in terms of density is akin to a single-family
residential area, taking into account the approximate 6.4 acres of land in question and
in terms of built-up real estate of which the approximate area is about 280,000 square
feet including the retention of 60 and 80 Douglas Avenue and the deBury House. Mr.
Thorne commented further on the preliminary design of the project; expressed the
intent, if the re-zoning is approved, to bring the project on line in 1991, and, with
respect to landscaping, noted the design attempt to maximize the slope without
measurable destruction or excavation.
Mr. Lawrence Cheslock, lead architect for the project, commented on the
elements of the proposed development, including an office and condominium tower,
and a destination resort facility featuring the restoration of 60 and 80 Douglas Avenue
and, referring to a site plan drawing, explained the features of the proposal beginning
at St. Matthew's Presbyterian Church on Douglas Avenue, along Douglas Avenue past
the Douglas Avenue Christian Church at the corner of Douglas Avenue and Main Street
with the plan being to celebrate the deBury House, and past the deBury House toward
and along Chesley Drive. Mr. Cheslock advised that it would be necessary to demolish
five buildings on Douglas Avenue to accommodate the project and that, while the
majority of parking for the residential hotel complex will be serviced from Chesley Drive,
there would be access for the parking garage from Douglas Avenue.
Mr. Cheslock, in response to Council queries, advised that, although the
matter is not finalized, it is likely that the project would be serviced from Chesley Drive
with the exception of 60 and 80 Douglas Avenue which possibly would be serviced
from Douglas Avenue; and that, with respect to the required distance between a liquor
licensed establishment and a church, the applicant is aware that the distance is not
adequate, there being four churches in the area of the site; and further that
approximately 3.5 acres of City land are required for the project. With respect to the
possibility of reducing the size of the project in view of residents' concerns, Mr.
Cheslock replied that the project is constantly being studied in an attempt to utilize
good planning principles regarding land usage, make the project financially viable and
also make it attractive and worthwhile; and that, concerning Planning staff's indication
that traffic on Douglas Avenue would be increased by 20 per cent with the parking
garage and the development of 60 and 80 Douglas Avenue, advised that this matter is
currently being studied and that it is possible there would be a right turn only on exiting
the destination resort towards Main Street. Mr. Douglas Thorne, in response to a
question related to servicing, advised that, during the 1990 reconstruction of Douglas
Avenue, Thorcor applied for a permit to have installed a new sewer line and two water
lines at the entrance to the driveway at 60 Douglas Avenue, and that there are
presently 2 two-inch lines in place, one to serve 60 and 80 Douglas Avenue as the
urban inn, and the other to serve the 130-unit destination resort located on the
downslope, with the sewer line to be taken from the high level elevation down to
Chesley Drive. Mr. Cheslock advised that the completed project construction costs
would be between $35 million to $40 million and that the design will be cost controlled
in that it is being prepared very rapidly on computers by a very large design team.
During discussion, Mr. Thorne commented on the status of the property
matter between Thorcor and the City in that an agreement of purchase and sale was
not provided to Thorcor by the City, nor was a legal description of the lands to be
transferred by the City to Thorcor received and other matters pertaining to the
agreement were not resolved, such as an accommodation related to parking for
Douglas Avenue Christian Church, which he understands has now been resolved by
way of a gentlemen's understanding in that Thorcor will provide to the Church parking
sufficient to replace that which it has had on its leased land from the City for a number
of years, with the Church also having a bonus insofar as utilization of Thorcor's parking
facilities on off-hours, especially on Saturday and Sunday, is concerned; and that, while
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a purchase price for the property was agreed upon by Thorcor and the City, there is a
major concern as to what constitutes the City's option to repurchase lands for which
Thorcor, in terms of a consolidated site, has invested considerable sums of money, with
his position as given Mr. Todd being that Thorcor is prepared to transact an agreement
of purchase and sale provided it has a legal description of lands to be conveyed and
that, relative to lands to be transferred, Thorcor is prepared to prepare the site which
would involve the expenditure of considerable sums of money for the purpose of
putting on the buildings as per the City's design plan before a transfer is consummated,
if that is what Council so desires; however, Thorcor is not prepared to build the
buildings or start construction of any part of those buildings until Thorcor has the land
clearly titled to it, and that it is fundamental for the success of the project for the lands
to be transferred clearly to the project proponent before the proponent unwisely spends
money to start construction and that, other than that, the conditions in the agreement
entered into in 1990 are largely addressed and acceptable to both parties. Mr. Thorne
added that, until the land is clearly titled to the project proponent, nothing will start in
terms of construction, save and except any buildings which may be constructed on land
owned by Thorcor, which is possible, but what constitutes development on Dean's Hill
poses a major question insofar as what might satisfy Council is concerned with respect
to the condition to return the land to the City. The Mayor expressed the understanding
that Thorcor's solicitor has advised the City that its selling price for the property and the
buy-back provision are acceptable to Thorcor and that Thorcor is to advise the City with
respect to suggested terms and conditions for the buy-back provision, the latter to
which Mr. Todd advised that he received earlier this date a verbal proposal from Mr.
Thorne in this regard and, concerning a request for further information detailing the
City's obligation to the Church, Mr. Todd advised that he provided this information to
Mr. 1. McGloan, solicitor for Thorcor; and that the road specifically deleted by Council
from the balance of the lands to be sold was not a concern to Mr. Thorne. Mr. Thorne,
in response to a question of whether or not accommodations can be made to modify
the project as proposed in the Planning staff report, advised that there are many
aspects of the project which, between now and the time it is built, will be changed,
although not dramatically but in terms of improvement; however, the fundamental
purpose of real property development is to ensure that the investment made is sound
and that, based upon studies of the project, it has been found that the scale, the
massing and the size of the project is akin to a good overall mixed-use development
which is economically sound; and added that Thorcor is open to modification relative to
discussion with City staff in November 1989. Mr. Thorne also advised that, if the
process is gone through and a land transfer takes place within the next 60 days,
Thorcor is ready to proceed with the project within 90 or 120 days from now vis-a-vis
the urban inn and that, around or about completion of the urban inn, two buildings on
Douglas Avenue would be demolished, the former Kennedy house and what he
believes to be 56 Douglas Avenue, which would allow the site to be cleansed
somewhat, meaning to say that site preparation, roadwork and other major changes to
landscaping could be done to obtain a viable urban inn that looks people-friendly and
that, coincidentally with all of that, a team would be set in motion for the condominium
and, coincidentally again with that marketing effort, a return would be made to pursue a
marketing and leasing program for the office building.
Mr. Edward Delaney of 15 Clarendon Street, President of the North End
Improvement Association, appeared in support of the above application on behalf of
the Association on the basis that, as indicated in the above-mentioned letter, the
proposed development would bring life back into the area, and he noted that the
Howard Johnson building on the opposite corner to the site is 9 storeys in height.
Mr. N. Barfoot of 100 Kennebecasis Drive appeared in support of the
above proposal on behalf of the Trustees of Douglas Avenue Christian Church and,
having noted the presence in the Council Chamber of Mr. Wes MacKnight - Chairman
of the Church's Board of Trustees, explained that the Church is in favour of the
proposed development provided that the Church parking, which presently exists on
lands rented from the City between the Church and Main Street, is continued in the
same location, and also provided that no building is erected on the Main Street frontage
between the side of the Church and Main Street. Mr. Barfoot read from a prepared
brief (which he subsequently filed with the Common Clerk) and advised that, as Mr.
Douglas Thorne recently confirmed that the building along the Main Street frontage,
which had been planned some months ago, has now been eliminated and therefore the
parking as now located would be continued with surface improvements, the
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objectionable features of the development have now been eliminated from the Church's
point of view. Mr. Barfoot suggested that the new residential component of the
development will bring people back to this area of the North End, which would benefit
the Church and the North End; and advised that, as for the commercial aspects,
although the Church was not in favour of the previous proposal because it would have
encroached upon the effective operation of the Church, there is now a new proposal
and the Church's objection to the office building has been overcome; however, the
Church would be very much opposed to this zoning if there were to be a tavern or
drinking establishment within the development.
During discussion, Mr. Barfoot clarified that, while a written agreement is
not in place with respect to parking, it is not the Church's intention to delay the proposal
but that it would be the Church's intention to obtain an enforceable written agreement
and, if the development is to proceed, it is the part of both parties to negotiate to
achieve the desired end as parking is essential for the Church's operation at its current
location.
Mr. Bedford, in response to Council queries, explained that the floor
space index or ratio referred to by Mr. Thorne is an alternative method of defining
density in zoning terms which is not used in the municipality of the City of Saint John,
and that the City's concern about the site in question, using a floor space per site area
ratio, is not totally overall floor space but the impact of height and access to the
abutting streets for the development proposed and further that, if a floor space ratio
were being used in this situation, the City would have initially proposed height controls
to go along with the floor space index. Mr. Bedford also explained that part of the issue
for the site in question is that the proposed zoning is integrated development which
means that the specific proposal is reviewed, rather than relating it to other zones
within the City; therefore, each proposal on the site is being evaluated as it impacts
both the site and the area; and Mr. Robichaud advised that it will be necessary for the
City to review total service drawings by the developer, although there should be
adequate water in the area to accommodate the proposal.
On motion of Councillor Rogers
Seconded by Councillor Landers
RESOLVED that the application of Mr.
Malcolm Thorne, Douglas Thorne and Thorcor Holdings Ltd. for a Municipal Plan
amendment, re-zoning and Section 39 amendment, with respect to properties on
Douglas Avenue, Chesley Drive and Main Street, be denied.
Councillor A Vincent asked if the application is legally before Council
and is it in order to vote on the re-zoning of a property which the applicant does not
own or have an agreement to purchase, to which Mr. Rodgers expressed the opinion
that the application is properly before Council as it deals with a proposed Municipal
Plan amendment and re-zoning of land owned by Thorcor, the City, and another person
for whom Thorcor is acting on behalf, all of which is permitted under the Zoning By-
Law; and he confirmed that a simple majority vote of Council is required to adopt the
above motion.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with the Mayor and
Councillors Davis and Knibb voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Rogers
RESOLVED that the correspondence
regarding the above application be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
(Councillors Fitzpatrick and M. Vincent withdrew from the meeting.)
Following a two-minute recess, the Council meeting resumed.
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
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completed with regard to the proposed re-zoning of a parcel of land at 427 Prince
Street (L.R.I.S. Number 382374), from "R-1 B" One-Family Residential to "IL-1"
Neighbourhood Institutional classification, to recognize the existing special care home
as a permitted use of the property, and to permit the construction of an 8 foot by 12
foot addition to be used as a staff kitchen/rest area, as requested by Beverly Rideout,
and that no written objections were received in this regard.
Consideration was given to a letter from the Planning Advisory
Committee advising that it adopted the recommendation in the submitted Planning staff
report at its January 29 meeting, and granted variances for lot occupancy and side yard
to permit the proposed addition; and recommending that the City of Saint John Zoning
By-Law be amended by re-zoning a parcel of land at 427 Prince Street (L.R.I.S.
Number 382374), from "R-1 B" One-Family Residential to "IL-1" Neighbourhood
Institutional classification, subject to a resolution pursuant to Section 39 of the
Community Planning Act limiting the use to a group care facility for a maximum of
eighteen residents.
Mr. Myles Rideout of 429 Prince Street appeared in support of the above
application, and noted that it is the intent to construct an addition to the property to be
used as a staff area.
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor A Vincent
RESOLVED that the by-law to amend
the Zoning By-Law Of The City Of Saint John, insofar as it concerns re-zoning a parcel
of land at 427 Prince Street (L.R.I.S. Number 382374), from "R-1 B" One-Family
Residential to "IL-1" Neighbourhood Institutional classification, subject to Section 39 of
the Community Planning Act as recommended by the Planning Advisory Committee, be
read a first time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a first time the by-law to amend the Zoning By-Law of the City of
Saint John.
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor A Vincent
RESOLVED that the by-law to amend
the Zoning By-Law Of The City Of Saint John, insofar as it concerns re-zoning a parcel
of land at 427 Prince Street (L.R.I.S. Number 382374), from "R-1 B" One-Family
Residential to "IL-1" Neighbourhood Institutional classification, subject to Section 39 of
the Community Planning Act as recommended by the Planning Advisory Committee, be
read a second time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a second time the by-law to amend the Zoning By-Law of the City
of Saint John.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that the letter from the
Planning Advisory Committee regarding the above-proposed amendment be received
and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
The Common Clerk advised that the necessary advertising was
completed with regard to a proposed Street Closing By-Law amendment with respect to
closing a portion of North Street and Drury Lane, and that no written objections were
received in this regard. No person was present to speak in opposition to or in favour of
the proposed amendment.
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On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the by-law entitled,
"A By-Law To Amend A By-Law Respecting The Stopping Up And Closing Of Highways
In The City Of Saint John", with respect to North Street and Drury Lane, be read a first
time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a first time the by-law entitled, "A By-Law To Amend A By-Law
Respecting The Stopping Up And Closing Of Highways In The City Of Saint John".
On motion of Councillor A Vincent
Seconded by Councillor Landers
RESOLVED that the by-law entitled, "A
By-Law To Amend A By-Law Respecting The Stopping Up And Closing Of Highways In
The City Of Saint John", with respect to North Street and Drury Lane, be read a second
time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a second time the by-law entitled, "A By-Law To Amend A By-Law
Respecting The Stopping Up And Closing Of Highways In The City Of Saint John".
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the letter from Mayor
Wayne asking the status of a report requested by Council on August 20, 1990 with
respect to the possibility of installing pumps at the Forebay, as well as the Building
Inspector's review of the prohibition in the Flood Risk Area By-Law concerning persons
residing on the flood plain filling in land for lawns -- be referred to the City Manager for
a report to Council.
Mr. Taylor advised that a report, which staff has been preparing over the
last few months, is being given a final review, with a response expected in the next two
weeks.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that the letter from Mayor
Wayne submitting a letter from New Brunswick Safety Council Inc. and the Governor-
General's Safe Driving Week Certificate for 1990 to the City of Saint John for being one
of the few Canadian municipalities with a population of 40,000 and over which
remained fatality-free during Safe Driving Week from December 1 to 7, 1990 -- be
received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Flewwelling
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
City Manager, authority be granted for payment of the following construction progress
certificates, namely:-
1. Contract 90-10 - Construction
of PRV Vault - Dufferin Row
QM Construction Ltd.
Original estimated value of contract
$ 37,960.00
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Total work done, Estimate Number 2
Retention
Payments previously approved
Sum recommended for payment, Progress
Estimate Number 2, dated January 28, 1991
Final holdback release
36,282.40
Nil
28,919.55
$ 7,362.85
2. Contract 90-25 - Germain
Street West Sewer Construction
Dean Construction Limited
Original estimated value of contract
Total work done, Estimate Number 3
Retention
Payments previously approved
Sum recommended for payment, Progress
Estimate Number 3, dated January 24, 1991
Final holdback release
$ 59,505.00
59,076.00
Nil
50,214.60
$ 8,861.40
3. Contract 90-16 - DouQlas Avenue Reconstruction
QM Construction Ltd.
Original estimated value of contract
Total work done, Estimate Number 3
Retention
Payments previously approved
Sum recommended for payment, Progress
Estimate Number 3, dated January 29, 1991
Partial holdback release
$429,381.00
438,753.62
6,550.00
344,295.39
$ 87,908.23
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a letter from the City Manager submitting a letter from the Saint
John Parking Commission to the Deputy Commissioner of Finance referring to
discussions between the Administrator of the Commission and the Corps of
Commissionaires in order to establish the 1991 rates for services rendered by Corps'
members as By-Law Enforcement Officers for the City of Saint John, such rates having
been anticipated in the 1991 Commission budget approved by Common Council at the
time of the Commission's 1991 Operating Budget approval; expressing the opinion that
the City is convinced that, because the cost (including benefits) of the Corps' service
has been reasonable and the City has continued to have good co-operation with the
Corps Officer in Saint John, this is the most economical means of having performed the
task of policing the City's parking meters, writing tickets and dealing with violators;
advising that the proposed rates represent an increase of approximately 3 1/2% at the
Sergeant and Corporal ranks and slightly over 8% at the Warrant Officer rank, and
explaining that, because in some respects this represents a contract between the City
and the Corps, Council is being asked to adopt the submitted resolution.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that as recommended by
the City Manager, the City of Saint John hereby agrees to pay the Corps of
Commissionaires the following rates for Commissionaires utilized for By-Law
Enforcement during the calendar year 1991: Warrant Officer II - $11.84/hour; Sergeant
- $1 0.63/hour; Corporal - $1 0.03/hour; and Commissionaires - $9.42/hour.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a report from the City Manager advising that, with regard to the
tender for municipal castings which was tabled at Council's last meeting, staff of the
Purchasing, Supply and Services and Water and Sewerage Departments have carried
out a review of the tenders and considered the problem encountered during the past
year with the recommended bidder and is satisfied that the tenders for castings have
been evaluated on all the factors and staff cannot alter the recommendation contained
in the report to Council on January 28, 1991; and recommending that this report be
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received and filed and the report on the tender for municipal castings be taken from the
table and the recommendation contained therein to award the tender to Central
Castings Ltd. of Amherst and Canada Iron Castings Ltd. of Saint John, as indicated in
the submitted bid summary, be adopted.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor A Vincent
RESOLVED that tender for the supply
of municipal castings be awarded to Canada Iron Castings Ltd. of Saint John.
(Councillors Fitzpatrick and M. Vincent re-entered the meeting.)
Councillor Fitzpatrick expressed the understanding that Canada Iron
Castings Ltd. supplied 75 castings, rather than 45 as indicated in the above report,
having supplied 15 on August 27, 15 on August 30, 15 on September 5, and 30 on
September 12, and advised that he could apprise staff of the purchase order numbers,
and discussion ensued during which time it was suggested this matter should be tabled
for review as a result of Councillor Fitzpatrick's information.
On motion of Councillor M. Vincent
Seconded by Councillor Fitzpatrick
RESOLVED that the above matter be
laid on the table for one week.
Question being taken, the tabling motion was carried with Councillor A
Vincent voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Rogers
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
City Manager, the tender of Vernon O'Dell of Hampton, N.B., at the prices as indicated
in the submitted bid summary, be accepted for cutting and removal of timber in the
Loch Lomond watershed area.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Consideration was given to a report from the City Manager submitting a
bid summary of the four tenders received for the supply of work clothing for the outside
labour force and members of the Fire Department, and advising that the lower priced
units offered by Fairville Department Store on item 4 are of a different material than
was specified and therefore do not meet specifications. The report explains that,
although awards have always been based on the lowest bid for each of the five
different sections, the slight price difference has altered the recommendation as
Fairville Department Stores is the lowest bidder on 4 garments and is only $22.92
higher on the total cost of the fifth item, and that this contract in 1990 was awarded to
one supplier and resulted in 20 orders being placed during the year for a combination
of the five garments; also explains that, if this year's award were split between two
vendors, the number of orders would increase, possibly by 100% to 40 orders in 1991
and result in that many more invoices being processed and cheques being issued
which, in staff's opinion, would not be in the City's best interests from either a financial
or administrative position; and submits a recommendation for the tender award for only
one vendor.
On motion of Councillor Flewwelling
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that as recommended by
the City Manager, the tender of Fairville Department Stores, at the unit prices indicated
in the submitted bid summary, be accepted for supplying work clothing for the City's
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outside labour force and members of the Fire Department.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Consideration was given to a report from the City Manager advising that
five companies responded to the tender for a replacement boiler at the Rothesay
Avenue Works Complex, for which the City's estimate was $70,000, and that Lawton's
Limited, the low bidder, subsequently advised that it had made an error of
approximately $10,000 in its tender and asked to be permitted to withdraw it; explaining
that, having agreed that the request of Lawton's Limited should be supported,
discussions centered on the next two bidders whose prices were within $978 of each
other and their qualifications to perform this contract, with the consultants' opinion
being that, given the slight price difference, the City would be better served by
awarding this contract to Security Mechanical Ltd. which is more experienced in this
type of heating system; submitting a copy of the consultants' letter in this regard; and
recommending that (1) the request of Lawton's Limited to withdraw its tender for a
replacement boiler at the Rothesay Avenue Works Complex be granted; (2) the tender
be awarded to Security Mechanical Ltd. at a cost of $67,838; and (3) the amount of
$67,838 be charged to the 1991 Capital Budget.
Consideration was also given to a letter from Lawton's Limited
requesting to withdraw its tender for the above project as an error was discovered in
listing its subtrade prices as explained.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Davis
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
City Manager, (1) the request of Lawton's Limited to withdraw its tender for a
replacement boiler at the Rothesay Avenue Works Complex be granted; (2) the tender
for a replacement boiler at the Rothesay Avenue Works Complex be awarded to
Security Mechanical Ltd. at a cost of $67,838; and (3) the amount of $67,838 be
charged to the 1991 Capital Budget.
Deputy Mayor Gould asked if it is staff's indication that the second lowest
tenderer, Campbell's Plumbing & Heating, is not able to do the job, to which Mr. Hanlon
replied that information he received indicates that Campbell's experience is more in hot
water heating than in steam heating and that, apparently, there is a particular expertise
required to do the steam boiler work in question and that the Property Management
Branch and the consultants concurred with the above recommendation; and Mr. Todd
added that Eastcan Consultants Ltd. has indicated that the project in question is
somewhat more complicated than the normal work a firm such as Campbell's performs
and, in Eastcan's opinion, the City would receive a better job by awarding the contract
to Security Mechanical which has more experience in doing this type of work and that,
rather than saying that Campbell's cannot do the job, the consultants are indicating that
they would be more comfortable, because of the additional experience Security
Mechanical has in performing this type of work, with Security Mechanical undertaking
the job in question.
(Councillor Coughlan withdrew during the above discussion.)
Question being taken, the motion was carried with the Mayor and Deputy
Mayor Gould voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Gould
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that the letter from Lawton's
Limited regarding its tender for a replacement boiler at the Rothesay Avenue Works
Complex be received and filed.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read a letter from the City Manager submitting a letter from Mr. H.
Meinhardt, Chairman of The Market Square Corporation, with respect to the necessary
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documents to finalize the Market Square restructuring, and advising that, from the City's
standpoint, the policy associated with the necessary documents has been negotiated
through the Corporation in conjunction with the Director of Housing and Property
Management, and have been approved as to legality and form by the City Solicitor.
On motion of Councillor Rogers
Seconded by Councillor Landers
RESOLVED that as recommended by the
City Manager, the Mayor and Common Clerk be authorized to execute all documents
applicable to the City which are with the Bank of Nova Scotia Properties Inc. and
Cadillac Fairview/JMB Properties, in connection with the proposed restructuring of the
Market Square Complex and any related matters.
(Councillor Coughlan re-entered the meeting)
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Landers
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that with regard to the
request of the Organizing Committee of the Saint John Police Force for a grant to
assist in the New Brunswick Police Curling Bonspiel to be held in Saint John on
February 8 to 10, 1991, a grant in the amount of $300 be approved.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read report of the Committee of the Whole
(as follows)
To the COMMON COUNCIL of the City of Saint John
The Committee of the Whole
reports
Your Committee begs leave to report that it sat on January 7, 1991,
when there were present Mayor Wayne and Councillors Coughlan, Davis, Fitzpatrick,
Flewwelling, Knibb, Landers, Rogers and A Vincent, and your Committee submits the
following recommendation, namely:-
1. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, the following
persons be appointed to the Rockwood Park Advisory Board for a term of one year: J.
M. McNamara, Ronald C. Watters, Francis Hughes, and Raymond Richards.
February 4, 1991,
Saint John, N.B.
Respectfully submitted,
(sgd.) Elsie E. Wayne,
C h air man.
On motion of Councillor Rogers
Seconded by Councillor Knibb
RESOLVED that the above report be
received and filed and the recommendation therein be adopted.
Her Worship the Mayor asked that Councillor M. Vincent be her
designate on the above Board, as she is unable to attend the meetings.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read report of the Committee of the Whole
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(as follows)
To the COMMON COUNCIL of the City of Saint John
The Committee of the Whole
reports
Your Committee begs leave to report that it sat on January 21, 1991,
when there were present Deputy Mayor Gould and Councillors Coughlan, Davis,
Fitzpatrick, Flewwelling, Knibb, Landers, Rogers and M. Vincent, and your Committee
submits the following recommendation, namely:-
1. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, George J. O'Brien
and Ralph D. Poley be appointed to the Power Commission for a three-year term
effective February 15, 1991.
February 4, 1991,
Saint John, N.B.
Respectfully submitted
(sgd.) Arthur L. Gould,
C h air man.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that the above report be
received and filed and the recommendation therein be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Read report of the Committee of the Whole
(as follows)
To the COMMON COUNCIL of the City of Saint John
The Committee of the Whole
reports
Your Committee begs leave to report that it sat on January 28, 1991,
when there were present Mayor Wayne and Councillors Coughlan, Davis, Fitzpatrick,
Flewwelling, Gould, Knibb, Landers and Rogers, and your Committee submits the
following recommendations, namely:-
1. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, Louis Duguay be
appointed to the Working Group on Race Relations.
2. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, Gerry Taylor, P. J.
(Pat) Barry, Murray Beesley, G. Forbes Elliot and Mayor Wayne be appointed to the
Fundy Region Development Commission for a term to expire December 31, 1992.
3. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, George A Keith
be appointed to the Power Commission for a three-year term effective February 15,
1991.
4. That as recommended by the Nominating Committee, John Kern be re-
appointed to the Rockwood Park Advisory Board for a term of one year.
5. That as recommended by the City Manager, (1) the City of Saint John
consider a liberalized transborder air agreement between Canada and the United
States as the basis of a framework for promoting market access between the
respective areas, and for improving business and pleasure travel; (2) the City of Saint
John inform The Honourable Minister of Transport that, in negotiating a new bilateral air
agreement, the concerns of the Saint John area and the interest of Canadian airlines
must be addressed; and (3) the City of Saint John not support the granting of cabotage
rights to foreign carriers, which would permit them to seriously threaten domestic
Canadian carriers.
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6. That as recommended by the City Solicitor, the two Solicitor II positions
in the Legal Department be reclassified from Group 3 to Group 5, Step A, and that the
Solicitor III position in the Legal Department be reclassified from Group 5 to Group 7,
Step A
7. That as recommended by the City Manager, the following management
jobs be reclassified as shown: (1) Deputy Building Inspector Grade 5; (2) Safety Officer
Grade 3; (3) Administrative Officer Grade 5; (4) Operations Engineer Grade 5; and (5)
Operations Engineer Grade 5.
8. That as recommended by the City Manager, a call for proposals be
made to carry out a job evaluation of all managerial/professional positions in the civic
administration.
February 4, 1991,
Saint John, N.B.
Respectfully submitted,
(sgd.) Elsie E. Wayne,
C h air man.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that section 1 of the above
report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Gould
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that section 2 of the above
report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillor Fitzpatrick
voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Gould
RESOLVED that section 3 of the above
report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that section 4 of the
above report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Fitzpatrick
RESOLVED that section 5 of the
above report be adopted.
Councillor M. Vincent advised that, further to Council's consideration on
December 27, 1990 of the above matter, he is now in a position to support the above
motion as a result of his discussion with Messrs. R. Murray, Senior Transportation
Policy Advisor, and D. O'Leary, Director of Economic Development.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Fitzpatrick
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Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that section 6 of the
above report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that section 7 of the above
report be adopted.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with Councillors Fitzpatrick
and Flewwelling voting "nay".
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor Rogers
RESOLVED that section 8 of the above
report be adopted.
Councillor Knibb, who initially proposed the above motion which was
seconded by Councillor M. Vincent and subsequently withdrew as mover, asked the
estimated cost of the evaluation and whether the review would be performed locally or
by a national firm, to which Mr. Taylor replied that, while at this point in time he does not
have a specific estimate, the cost might be in the range of $40,000 to $50,000 and that
a request for proposals will be put out on a national basis, with local input as well as
input from outside persons. Councillor Rogers suggested that, if the above evaluation
is not carried out in conjunction with the organizational review which hopefully is
presently underway through the City Manager and the Human Resources Department,
it will not be known how efficient the incumbents of managerial/professional positions
are or what job is being performed; therefore, data should be available to back-up
where the positions should be within the organization. Mr. Taylor replied that the intent
is to advertise the proposal for the job evaluation and at the same time initially,
internally, a process will be put in place to evaluate the organizational structure of each
department, some of which has started, relative to Council's concern with respect to
efficiency of some jobs and how they function within the family of jobs, and that it is
hoped that, when the initial proposal of evaluation is completed, the other information
will be also available; and concluded that, over that same period of time, an information
package will be prepared for Council's consideration to specifically explain what is
being done and how it will tie into the overall structure and, if Council feels that what
staff is trying to do internally, initially, is not appropriate, staff would subsequently be
looking at something more advanced relative to the concerns. With respect to a
timeframe, Mr. Taylor advised that staff anticipates that the process will be completed
by six months, with a report to Council within a month on the process of reviewing the
overall efficiency of the approximate 110 management positions. In withdrawing as
mover of the initial motion, Councillor Knibb advised that he was not satisfied and
would vote against the proposal. Councillor Fitzpatrick asked if the Department of
Human Resources could perform the proposed job evaluation to which Mr. Taylor
replied that he would recommend that the evaluation be done by someone totally
separate from the operation on the basis that the process influences the overall morale
of the operation in many respects and, even being totally unbiased and fair in
evaluating the positions, there could be perception otherwise if the evaluation were
carried out by City staff, although the evaluation could be carried out inside but it would
take much longer.
Question being taken, the motion was carried with the Mayor and
Councillors Gould, Knibb and A Vincent voting "nay".
(Councillors Gould and M. Vincent withdrew from the meeting as they
were not present for the January 7 public hearing with respect to the proposed Zoning
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By-Law text amendment relative to 15-25 and 43-55 Exmouth Street.)
Read a letter from the Planning Advisory Committee regarding the
application of the Saint John Parking Commission for a Zoning By-Law text amendment
regarding 15-25 and 43-55 Exmouth Street, which was tabled at the January 7, 1991
public hearing with no readings given; advising that the applicant met with the local
residents and agreed to proceed with only one of the parking lots and that, as part of
the Committee's approval, conditions were imposed as a conditional use which required
upgrading of the site and limiting the proposed parking lots to a five-year period; and
recommending that Section 310(2)( c)(iii) of the City of Saint John Zoning By-Law be
amended as follows: "(iii) notwithstanding (i) above, a surface parking area, located at
43-55 Exmouth Street (L.R.I.S. Numbers 13078, 13060, 15842 and 13502), may be
used for the purposes of providing parking for uses which are not located and permitted
in the same zone.".
Consideration was also given to letters from (a) Marion Osborne, (b)
Dawn Perkins, (c) William C. Balemans, and (d) D. Palmer requesting to address
Council at this meeting with respect to 43-55 Exmouth Street.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor A Vincent
RESOLVED that the by-law to amend
the Zoning By-Law of the City of Saint John, by amending Section 310(2)(c)(iii) as
follows: "(iii) notwithstanding (i) above, a surface parking area, located at 43-55
Exmouth Street (L.R.I.S. Numbers 13078, 13060, 15842 and 13502), may be used for
the purposes of providing parking for uses which are not located and permitted in the
same zone.", be read a first time.
On motion of Councillor Coughlan
Seconded by Councillor Rogers
RESOLVED that the above-named
persons be invited to address Council at this time.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Ms. Marion Osborne appeared before Council and explained that, as
there was some question about residents' signatures being on two petitions, her
purpose at this meeting is to clarify their position. Ms. Osborne also explained that,
after the first petition was taken, a neighbourhood meeting was held at which Mr. R.
Smith of the Parking Commission was present, and the decision was made to concur
with the proposed amendment for the parking lot at 43-55 Exmouth Street, which led to
the circulation of a second petition which includes 35 residents' signatures. Ms.
Osborne advised that the reason for choosing the lot at 43-55 Exmouth Street over the
lot at 15-25 Exmouth Street is that the latter lot is too close to the corner of Richmond
Street and problems have resulted every winter due to parked vehicles on both sides of
the street making it impossible to turn on or off the street at certain times of the day;
and expressed the opinion that, in view of the number of vehicles which park on
Exmouth, Richmond and Waterloo Streets, there is a real need for a parking lot at the
said location.
Councillor Coughlan suggested that, if the property at 15-25 Exmouth
Street is not utilized as a parking lot as proposed, problems could result from
inappropriate and improper use of the lot, to which Ms. Osborne suggested that there
might be some way that the property could be closed off.
Ms. Dawn Perkins appeared before Council and, having commented on
past parking problems on Exmouth Street which were alleviated for approximately half
a year after initiation of the Residential Parking Program, suggested that the creation of
a parking lot on Exmouth Street to accommodate 55 cars at $35 per month would lead
to additional traffic problems as the lot would be used predominately by non-local
persons arriving at and leaving the lot at the same time neighbourhood children are on
their way to school or playing in the streets and during rush hour. Ms. Perkins also
suggested that, as the no parking signs are disappearing from Exmouth Street, it is
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only a matter of time before non-local cars will again be parking on both sides of
Exmouth Street and, with the addition of a parking lot, the traffic problem would be
increased greatly, and requested Council not to allow the parking lot.
Mr. William Balemans addressed Council in opposition to the creation of
a parking lot on Exmouth Street; and questioned the propriety of the building being
demolished on the property and the erection of Parking Commission signage prior to
approval of the amendment and before area residents were notified about the
proposed parking lots on Exmouth Street.
During discussion Mr. Bedford confirmed that the Planning Advisory
Committee forwards notices of its hearings to residents abutting and within 300 feet of
property which is the subject of a proposed Zoning By-Law amendment and that this
was done in the case in question; and Mr. Balemans expressed the opinion that Mr.
Bonnell, a member of the Planning Advisory Committee who resides on Waterloo
Street opposite Mr. Baleman's residence, should not have been present at the
Committee meeting during consideration of the subject Zoning By-Law amendment on
the basis that Mr. Bonnell verbally complained at the meeting about the noise caused
by Mr. Baleman's pulp truck, and asked how Mr. Bonnell could be considered to be
neutral in this regard. Mr. Balemans confirmed that he is opposed to the creation of a
parking lot at both 15-25 and 43-55 Exmouth Street, which is strictly a residential street,
noted the traffic problems in the area, and asked if Council is aware that the Parking
Commission is charging persons to park on Exmouth Street without having a legal
parking lot. The Mayor expressed the opinion that, in view of Mr. Baleman's suggestion
that proper procedures were not followed in this matter, the matter should be tabled for
one week for a full report from staff, and Councillor Rogers asked that this report also
explain a suggestion to the residents that Exmouth Street would be plowed quicker if a
parking lot were created on street.
Ms. D. Palmer addressed Council in opposition to the creation of a
parking lot at 43-55 Exmouth Street on the basis of her concern about the additional
traffic that such an endeavour would bring to this residential Street, especially at
periods when children are going to and from school; and commented on snow plowing
difficulties on Exmouth Street as a result of vehicular parking. Ms. Palmer asked
Council to seriously consider this matter as presented and make a responsible decision
that considers everybody's well being, especially the children's safety, and filed a copy
of her presentation with the Common Clerk.
(Councillor Coughlan withdrew from the meeting during the above
presentation. )
On motion of Councillor Rogers
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the above matter be
laid on the table for one week for a report from the City Manager.
Question being taken, the tabling motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the letter from the
Board of School Trustees, School District No. 20, advising that, further to December 17,
1990 Council resolution regarding signage in the area of the school crosswalks on
Union Street at the approaches to St. Joseph's and Prince Charles Schools, the Board
has instructed staff to discuss the matter with the school principals involved and have
students reminded of the safety requirements of crosswalks; and requesting that the
City examine the signage in the area and, if required, post the proper school zone signs
-- be referred to the City Manager.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
(Councillors Gould and M. Vincent re-entered the meeting.)
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On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the letter from the
Board of School Trustees, School District No. 20, advising of its receipt of a report
regarding the lack of sidewalks in both the eastern and western sections of the City
which have an effect on children who walk to school; and requesting that the City
include in its next capital construction budget a provision for sidewalks in the following
areas: (a) eastern section - from the grocery store to Eldersley Avenue for students
who attend Lakewood School; and (b) the intersection of Manawagonish Road and the
entrance to Westgate Park for students who attend Island View School -- be referred
for consideration in the Capital Budget.
(Councillor Coughlan re-entered the meeting.)
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor M. Vincent
RESOLVED that the letter from the
Saint John Track Club advising that Rorri Currie was voted New Brunswick's Male
Athlete of the Year (1990) and will be representing the City of Saint John at the
Canadian Senior Indoor Track & field Championships in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, on
February 16-17,1991; and requesting that the City grant Mr. Currie $200 to assist in
this regard -- be received and filed and a grant of $200 be approved.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Fitzpatrick
RESOLVED that the application of
Hughes Surveys & Consultants Ltd. on behalf of Louis Doucet for an amendment to the
May 24, 1988 Section 39 resolution with respect to the re-zoning of 3840 Loch Lomond
Road be referred to the Planning Advisory Committee for a report and recommendation
and that the necessary advertising be authorized in this regard, with the public hearing
to be held on March 18, 1991.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Flewwelling
Seconded by Councillor Coughlan
RESOLVED that the letter from Mr. J.
W. (Joe) Flynn advising that he must resign as Chairman of the Major Tournament
Committee and that he would be willing, if Council wishes, to remain as a Committee
member -- be received and filed and Mr. Flynn's resignation as Chairman of the
Committee be accepted, and further that Council accept with appreciation Mr. Flynn's
offer to remain as a Committee member.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that the application of
Manford M. Thompson Construction Company Limited for the re-zoning of property on
Sand Cove Road be referred to the Planning Advisory Committee for a report and
recommendation, and that the necessary advertising be authorized in this regard, with
the public hearing to be held on March 18, 1991.
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
adjourned.
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On motion of Councillor Knibb
Seconded by Councillor Flewwelling
RESOLVED that this meeting be
Question being taken, the motion was carried.
Common Clerk